US Election 2024 antics

A fair summary and analysis

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Perhaps he’ll be better now that he’s had some practice senile?

From a ‘Guardian Columnist’ and it’s just his opinion…Has he had any experience being a president Lincs?

Experience is important? Not according to Trump.

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how many presidents have experience of being president before they are president? The whole “have a go” system is geared around “no prior experience needed”. All that is needed is an unfaltering self-belief and enough people to donate $$$'s to a campaign.

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Seriously?? Only people who have been president can have a valid opinion??

and does that criteria apply to everyone - or only those who say what you don’t agree with?

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I didn’t say that I disagreed with his appraisal July, but I do. We have to remember, it’s just his opinion…
I agree with Trump on many levels, his antivaxing stance, his thoughts on Net Zero, the gender malarky, raising tariffs on imported goods and kicking wokeness into the long grass…
What’s not to like?

Every single thing you mention is not to like.
Antivax - when vaccination saved us all from prolonged lock down and saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Plus, do you not question the man who takes the credit for the rapid vaccination development … then questions vaccination?
Net Zero simply means reducing carbon emissions. You need to explain why that is bad.
Tariffs means trade war - and sits very, very badly with the rush to free trade agreements that were being so promoted by Brexit fans. The basis of Brexit was more free trade agreements. So now you are saying that is a bad thing?
Wokeness simply means being fully aware of historic facts, potential to cause distress from words and actions and generally being taking responsibility. And you think that it bad?
You have a problem with gender issues? You are showing your age - the young of today don’t worry about other’s gender. The future is gender change and self identification, like it or not. Definitely not worth a presidential policy - unless he just likes to give the ignorant a minority to hate. Oh, yes, that is his policy.

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Congrats - this thread is now going to end up way off topic. I hoped we had put some of these subjects on snooze mode. :slight_smile:

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Many of these cabinet nominees are outstanding. Anyone breathing would be better than some of the previous administration’s appointees IMHO. Howevver, I am staunchly, and will be ACTIVELY, working toward a senatorial rejection Mat Gaetz, who unfortunately, is my congressional representative. I know him, his policies, rhetoric, and past behaviors well. He’s being nominated because he has been a long-time Trump sycophant and a self-describled firebrand. It might be of minor interest that I voted a straight party ticket, but left blank a vote where my choice was Gaetz or his too-left opponent.

Cabinet appointees are not and have never been meant to be a balance of voices; their job is to carry out the President’s policies. Trump tends to hire and appoint (in business and government) based on hunches, but he’s also known to dismiss people for any number of reasons. Biden was too impotent to make even Democrat-advised changes in his.

In the meantime, it is a beaufitul element of our government that we have a voice in these appointments.

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yes it is his opinion - but why ask if he has ever been president as if not being president made his opinion invalid??? :face_with_spiral_eyes:

I think Trump’s encouraging anti vacccination and i n fact politicising Covid vaccines and measures in the first place was very dangerous and I strongly disagree on that

I think his disregard for environmental concerns is very dangerous too - interestingly you said before tarriffs were good because they would encourage more environmentally friendly production in US - I doubt that would be a result but seems a contradiction to now say you disagree with NetZero.

He will put back any advances or understandings of gender diverse people (and also any other people different from his white hetrosexual christian norm) - I dont like that either

I dont understand enough about economics to understand effects of tarriffs or no tarriffs - but I doubt it is as simple or universally benificial as Trump is making out.

Wokeness is just a word used by some people for anything they disagree with - you will have t o be more specific about what exactly you mean.

But in answer t o your question - that is what not to like - as well as the arrogant dishonest sleazy rude self serving nature of the man himself

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why congratulate Lincolnshire?

He was giving a direct answer t o the question posed by Oldgreyfox

not quite sure how questions/answers about Trump policies are off topic though :thinking:

He was sending the discussion down several rabbit holes, which are nothing to do with this thread.

answers t o questions about Trump policies are exactly on topic of thread.

and that is the problem, the USA and it’s enemies of liberty who voted for him ( Fascist Don)will pay the price like true Americans will, a Christofascist dictatorship, while all you supporters of fascism cheer from abroad, and strive to bring down Democracy around the world. The greed of man will destroy the world, it(the world) will be / is doomed forever to war, the greed of the weakminded in the name of a man invented concept.

hopefully not forever, hopefully there will be an election in four years

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Not climate change then senile?I think most of the woke lefties and those that bury their heads in the sand and just swallow anything the media and establishment put out… would give you an argument…

OGF the 2 are connected. Not because of the climate argument which is a compete and unnecessary diversion, but destruction of ecology and animal habitats. The whole climate obsession is leading us to destroy more of earth’s resources for lithium etc. Conservation should be the focus. Pesticides, rainforest destruction, palm oil growth for things we don’t need etc will be the things that bite us on the you know what. Upset the cycle of pollination and ecological balance and you kill our future.

Net zero is a con, because to get to net you can put in as much damage as you want. We can’t control the climate but we can fix ecological balance.

As I said, this topic is one rabbit hole for which many threads have been created in the past.

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And yet, history has/ is constantly proving my point. Ohhh, there will be an election in 4 years, though it may take armed conflict to bring it about.

I would say climate change is a result of the greed of man

and the things Annie mentioned as well.

Both are concerns - neither of which Trump is likely to address.

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