I don’t think that poverty is the main factor on suicide but I may be wrong what figures are there to support this ?
Doctors are not generally poor and I can think of a couple of men who have committed suicide they weren’t poor just plagued by mental problems . Both since being young but outwardly successful men .I can even remember one case where the man was far from poor and a popular successful figure
Depression is the most likely cause ,
Anyone who commits suicide is not in their right mind.
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https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7749/
Deprivation
People living in the most deprived areas of England have a higher risk of suicide than those living in the least deprived areas. The suicide rate in the most deprived 10% of areas (‘decile’) in 2017-2019 was 14.1 per 100,000, which is almost double the rate of 7.4 in the least deprived decile.
Which just proves false the saying money doesn’t bring you happiness.
Presumably it may however deter you from ending it all .
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I’m sure you have noticed that I, like you, was playing devil’s advocate a bit, pretty much in the sense of not taking things too seriously as you say yourself. I couldn’t resist doing that since I failed to see how the things you mentioned would contribute to suicidal tendencies among males only, for this is the topic, let alone how they could increase the suicide rate at all.
It’s certainly true, as you say, that people back then didn’t have easy and extensive access to information as we have today. I, for one, wouldn’t say that we “are told” about global issues because no one forces us to listen to stuff we don’t want to hear. Plagiarizing and going beyond Pink Floyd who were talking about “forty channels of s… to choose from”, we have 900 now from which we can pick those channels that are completely free of any news including local news. No pressure at all.
Nor is there any pressure on young people to choose a particular job or career path. Harold Macmillan’s statement, “You’ve never had it so good”, could be applied to young people today given that they are being wooed by craft businesses and companies like never before. When has there ever been such an employees’ market? Where’s the pressure on them?
As for the pressure on oldies to keep up with technical innovation, doesn’t it boil down to knowing how a gadget needs to be operated rather than understanding the real technological processes behind them? What strikes me, though, is that elder people, just to give one example, are deprived of chances like obtaining higher interest if they don’t have an email address or a mobile phone number.
I remember the pressure on more established staff to keep up with technological development in the seventies when, say, CNC machines were being introduced and senior employees were expected to learn to operate them.
What’s wrong with the world? Too much money, too many people, and too many differing interests and objectives.
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I think suicide and attempted suicide are both expressions of completely losing hope
Perhaps a life of grinding poverty leads to people losing hope faster and seeing no way out while having money means their are more chinks in the darkness and more opportunities to buy a way to a light at the end of the tunnel?
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So why do so many male doctors commit suicide ?
They are not poor
Whereas many people are poor but they don’t all commit suicide .
It’s all to do with peoples resilience to bad things some people are resilient some people because of their mental make up are not .
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You try dealing with the incurable and those where all hope has been abandoned and see how long you cope before going doollally. I know I couldn’t do it and stay sane 
Worse than that, add on knowing better care could be possible if more funding or more staffing was available. Futility is the most depressing thing - and a proportion of doctors work will end up in futility.
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Which demonstrates my point Omah, that the media has led us to believe that suicide is more prevalent now than it was back in the day. What else does the MSM lead us to believe that is not true?
People were tougher in the old days.We didn’t have any heat in our house until someone(me)lit the fire in the morning and in some houses we lived the toilet was outside…etc…
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when we think back to our dark days, i mean we will all have had dark days, ok different levels of darkness, but however low i have been Suicide was never seen as an option.
hence i cannot understand the level of darkness these poor people decend into, my heart goes out to them, that they felt there were no other options. can i understand them?, certainly not, and i hope i never do…
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Surviving In today’s world is sometimes a struggle, but as long as things come at you one at a time most of us can ride the storm but problems often come in threes. Lost job, money problems, addictive habits, gambling, Alcoholism, drugs, health issues, and worst of all, the loss of a partner or loved one, either through separation or something more permanent. Before you know it you can find yourself out on the street. It’s usually the bloke because the law is on the wife’s side so she gets the shirt off his back…
Which media was that … ?
That’s why I never want to feel. Like that again .
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Blighty didn’t have “Forty Channels” when they wrote that, the Yanks did so maybe its all their fault!!
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I stand corrected. My memory played me false. They were talking about thirteen channels. Might also have been too many.
The media that you used to demonstrate that suicide was worse back in the day Omah…
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That was the “media” that I linked to … what were your sources for saying “the media has led us to believe that suicide is more prevalent now than it was back in the day” ?
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It must be there are are more people for a start.
Because you convinced me that it was not with your media reference Omah…
