hate is a strong word, give up, you will offend the lettuce 
As several members of my family had cancer many years ago (and none survived even with treatment) I have followed an anti-cancer/anti-inflammatory diet.
I did initially just eat chicken, turkey and white fish a lot (have allergies to shellfish and nuts). I wasn’t a big beef fan anyway but I did grow up on lamb and mint sauce for sunday dinners so missed that as one of my favourites!
After the brexit scares about chlorinated chicken and price rises or food shortages as well as the possibility I maybe going through changeover from ESA to UC at the same time and have barely have enough to cover rent myself I’ve been trying out different vegetarian/vegan foods to find a few alternatives I don’t mind!
Particuarly one’s that could be made up on a camping stove if gas/electric was a problem (either due to shortages or because I couldn’t pay the bills with all money going to keep a a roof over my (and the dogs) head!
I wouldn’t make my dog eat a vegetarian kibble though, even facing a severe cash shortage I’d rather stock up on her food and tinned meats for her (if I wasn’t going to be able to afford fresh). eg I’d get in plenty of applaws tinned chicken with a long use by date incase the only chicken I could afford was the chlorinated stuff (if I won’t eat it for health reasons, she’s not eating it either!).
We both like tinned tuna and mackerel! so I’d get plenty of those in…sardines for her too, but I don’t like them!
I was just looking on your Brexit forum to see if there was a food post (prepping) but they all seem to be political discussions.
Vegans also have to wear synthetic shoes etc. Not too eco friendly either. Veganism was never about saving the planet.
Nut roast ? No thanks!
Some do have “herby” breath but it’s not that common to be able to smell it judging by my small sample of veg friends.
Salad doesn’t like me .
My stomach must be accustomed to junk .
MrM looks on salad as a side dish
Is that really credible??
Assuming UK gallons that is 720 lbs of water for just over one lb of avocados. Clearly, that half a half a kilo does not contain 720 lb of water - that would be nonsensical in the extreme.
In fairness, that’s not exactly what they claim. A possibly more credible explanation for the 720 gallons is that it is used for irrigation and the vast majority drains back to the water table for reuse. Other quantities are released from the leaves and evaporate eventually being included in clouds and eventually rainfall.
Sure, the edible fruit contains water. It gets eaten, goes through the digestive process…I won’t go into what happens with that.
The statement
‘Did you know it takes 72 gallons of water to grow half a kilo of avocados?’ infers that 72 gallons is in some way consumed.
Sensationalist nonsense. Not even worthy of the |DM.
There is more to an avocado than the fruit Besoeker. It needs water to germinate and provide foliage and root otherwise no fruit. Same as your plants and lawns. Living on sandy soil my lawns probably use ten times that amount of water in drought…But they look nice…
I love the baby carrot pic! 
I’m a vegetarian, but probably not a really conscientious one.
I have never eaten meat (don’t like it) and gave up eating fish some years ago (although I did like it and sometimes miss it) but I probably wouldn’t go out of my way to analyse a jelly baby to check if it had animal-derived gelatine in it.
I only use eggs from local people who treat their hens well.
I feel guilty about consuming dairy products because I think the dairy industry is worse than the beef industry for animal welfare but I’d find it difficult to give up all dairy products from my diet.
I’ve tried soya protein and soya milk etc and I can’t stomach it.
As for preaching to other people - I just don’t. What they eat is their choice.
I only know one vegan and she insists that her husband and her two young children follow the same strict veganism that she does. I don’t agree with making your kids do that.
When my kids lived at home, I often cooked roast joints, meat casseroles etc, as well as fish and veggie dishes. I was fortunate to live in a rural area with a good butcher who sold meat which had been well raised locally and locally slaughtered.
My husband and kids would never let me cook steaks or chops, though - as I have never eaten it, I find it hard to judge those rare, medium-rare stages, so I tend to let it cook a bit longer to be on the safe side and end up cremating it!
From the OP, I very much agree with this bit:
“ … let’s make sure welfare standards are high for the animals we do raise and eventually eat.
Let’s ban halal and kosher products from animals that have not been stunned before slaughter.
Then let people eat what they want to eat instead of extreme vegans trying to force others to follow suit."
A friend I was talking with the other day about considering becoming vegetarian due to a metabolic disorder , said that most people would be vegetarian if slaughter houses had glass walls.
In my early 20’s a couple friend of mine went to Australia to work for 6 months on a visa…The only jobs they could get was working in slaughter houses. They both turned vegetarian after that.
I know there is no way I’d ever work in a slaughter house. It just wouldn’t happen.
You may treat them tent to times as much water.
But where does all that water actually end up?
It is funny you should say that It was only in the last few days that I was hearing about an abattoir just built with glass walls.
I think this is the report - yes about 6.00min
That’s inspiring. I have much respect for humanity who care for all life including the livestock that pays their mortgage.
Some stories about animal cruelty can be revolting. Thank goodness for caring people.
I take your points in reverse order.
Cruelty to animals is revolting.
Livestock raised to pay for the mortgage wouldn’t exist but for that need. Farmers need to live. Slaughter is part of the cycle but at least it is done as humanely as possible - in most cases.
I won’t go into detail but I’ve witnessed it in different parts of the world.
Well you worded it much better than I found but that’s basically what I meant. Slaughter is part of survival and the food chain. Humanity could at least do it as humanely as possible.
Great respect for that.
Thank you, Canadian fellow. I was brought up on a farm in Scotland. Around 3,000 sheep, stock cattle, and some dairy.
You know the score. You can’t get sentimental about the business aspect.
Absolutely! You ‘shouldn’t’ get sentimental about the business aspect BUT I’m an ULTRA sensitive female and can’t help but be sensitive. 
You know the score. :-p
I see it as a spoiler.
I don’t mind a stir fry but it has to be smothered in a sauce, as for lettuce… well. 