Vapours on Prescription

I knew an ex-smoker who was so smug with his success about stopping, that he actually removed the cigarette from anyone he was in conversation with and said “If I can stop, so can you”

He didn’t have many friends I can tell you!

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‘Smug’ was the word I wanted to use Pixie, but didn’t dare :face_with_hand_over_mouth: :grinning:

What a cheeky bugga he was though! I’d have slapped him in the gob :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I know, and I’m surprised it didn’t happen! Nowadays it likely would though…!

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I think it’s round that price in all the vaping shops round here. I mostly used to buy it from E Cloud.

I smoked to oblivion but don’t care about freeloaders , for some reason, worked hard, paid for my Cigarettes and gave gave some away, why the heck comment on a thread like this. :grin:

Presumably the NHS would not be giving vapers the equivalent on one week’s supply when it’s prescribed.

I had a really really terrible time trying to quit smoking. I lost count of the number of times I tried stopping. This was back at the time when everyone was smoking. So you would go out having tried to stop only to be in a ciggie smoke filled room with your mates pushing a pack in your face offering you a ciggie. It became such a physical addiction that I could get out of bed in the middle of the night and drive to a petrol station to buy some. When I did manage to quit for a few months or more a stressful or emotional situation combined with alcohol and socialising would lead to a single cigarette finding it’s way between my lips. Then that would be it for months or more. I ended up quitting with patches, but that took months too and I was so hooked that I (ab fab Patsy-like) could end up having a ciggie with the patch still on. It was only when I realised they were making me ill (where my body was reacting in protest at every puff!) that I finally quit 18 years ago. Doubt I would be alive by now the way I felt back then. I have never felt so out of control of my own body. It’s like a crazyness having to get a ciggie fix. If others here haven’t felt like that then they do not understand nicotine addiction.

The government have to take some responsibility for the fact that the tobacco industry continues to exist and sell its wares to Joe public despite long known dangers of tobacco addiction. It’s one of the worst things people can do to their bodies and it’s still somehow legally on sale. Why? Money and taxes that’s why. So if the state allows sale of this substance that can ruin lives and health then why should they not take responsibility for the consequences?

Prescriptions are means tested. I can’t see this being a cost to the NHS. The cost of treating diseases caused by smoking far outweighs the piddly contribution towards those in the smoking community who would qualify for free scripts. They would procure vast amounts of vape at cost rather than with a mark up and would claw back most of that via prescription charges where they give someone a month’s supply for a fraction of what it will cost them to buy vape on the high street but yet still financially benefit the tax payer because they will get it cheaper. Then you have to add to that exponential long term savings if people quit as a result.

The losers here are the vape industries and the tobacco industry.

Annie it isn’t the nicotine that is likely to kill you, it is the tar and other chemicals that the tobacco companies put into cigarettes to make them burn slower.
Nicotine may be addictive to some, so you need to be strong to give smoking up… but then even some heroine addicts have to be strong & that is probably 100 times worse than nicotine …but they manage it!
If nicotine patches don’t help with stopping their smoking habit (a bit like methadone does with heroine) perhaps they don’t have a strong enough desire or don’t care as much about the health damage it does!
Surely you need to treat the addiction if you are an addict, but many smokers can’t give up because they are not strong enough to change their way of life.
Years ago I smoked cigarettes , but I knew I was not addicted to nicotine, It was just a habit that I needed to break… and I did

I thought ‘Vapours’ were something Victorian lades had requiring smelling salts…

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very true LDI smoke 20 a day (£10) but I damn well make sure my bills are paid and there’s plenty of food in the house…by the way I enjoy my fags

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Nicotine may not be the main cause of smoker deaths but it does have an effect on the body much like the usual effects of caffeine except caffeine doesn’t come as a package with carbon monoxide ingestion.

I wasn’t addicted when I first started smoking, it was more a social prop. It was only when I started properly inhaling (which I didn’t realise I wasn’t doing at first) that it became physical. Really when I started studying it just became a way to release tension and help me focus.

My way of quitting was imagining I was breathing in a car exhaust rather than a ciggie. Giving up the habit was the most difficult thing I have ever had to deal with. I managed it eventually but I can well understand why some people really struggle and need help. They really should just stop selling the darned stuff but it generates too much tax revenue.

I was a 60+ a day smoker, can only speak for myself, don’t think the addiction was linked to any chemical, it was in the mind, if it hadn’t been cigarettes in excess, it would have been something else, it does not help that it is a habit also.

I agree with you! I am glad that you managed to give up, It isn’t easy but you should be very proud that you managed to stop smoking!
I chatted to 3 young girls outside a shop & explained the problems smoking can cause . I saw them a few weeks later & they said " Thank you, we are not smoking anymore" so I hope they managed to succeed! :smiley:

@AnnieS
In 2020, revenues from tobacco tax in the United States amounted to 12.35 billion U.S. dollars. The forecast predicts a decrease in tobacco tax revenues down to 11.04 billion U.S. dollars in 2026. Total U.S. government revenue in 2020 was 3.42 trillion U.S. dollars.Aug 3, 2021

Tobacco duty tax receipts in the UK 2000-2021

In 2020/21, tobacco duty tax receipts in the United Kingdom amounted to approximately 9.96 billion British pounds, compared with 9.29 billion pounds in the previous financial year.Apr 29, 2021

As said, there are other savings by letting people die younger. Harsh, but true.

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Most realities are!

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Then they should stop!

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Vaping is just as disgusting as smoking and just swaps one addiction for another. I don’t see the point.

Vaping isnt quite so harmful as fill blooded tobacco.