Trump - The Long Goodbye

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What legal challenges is Trump planning?

Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani told Fox News that it would be wrong for Mr Trump to concede because: “There is strong evidence that this was an election that in at least three or four states, and possibly 10, it was stolen.”

The Trump campaign is yet to provide this “strong evidence”.

Pennsylvania

Giuliani says further lawsuits will be filed over a lack of access for poll watchers in the state.

Wisconsin

The president’s campaign has said it will request a recount in Wisconsin “based on abnormalities seen” on election day, although this wouldn’t require a lawsuit.

It’s unclear when this recount would take place, since typically these don’t happen until after officials finish reviewing the votes. The state’s deadline for this part of the process is 17 November.

Nevada

The Nevada Republican Party tweeted saying: “Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they moved from Nevada.”

The case is focused on voters in Clark County, but the county’s registrar has said: “We are not aware of any improper ballots that are being processed.”

Arizona

The Trump campaign filed a lawsuit in Arizona on Saturday, claiming some legal votes were rejected.

The case cites declarations by some poll watchers and two voters who claim they had problems with voting machines.

The lawsuit is under review, but Arizona’s Secretary of State said it was “grasping at straws”.

What legal challenges by Trump have been dismissed?

Michigan

On 4 November, the Trump campaign filed a lawsuit to stop the count over claims of a lack of access to observe the process.

A judge dismissed the lawsuit, saying there was insufficient evidence that oversight procedures weren’t being followed.

Nevada

In a separate case, a federal judge blocked attempts by the Republicans to stop the use of a signature verification machine, rejecting allegations that it wasn’t able to check signatures correctly.

Georgia

A lawsuit was filed in Georgia’s Chatham County to pause the count, alleging problems with ballot processing.

On 5 November, a judge dismissed this lawsuit, saying there was “no evidence” of improper ballot mixing.

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The central theme of Biden’s campaign and of the Democratic National Convention was that Donald Trump is a uniquely malignant figure, that many Republican legislators would be happy to be rid of him to work with Democrats, that Biden himself is uniquely situated to work across the aisle with the opposition, and that Democrats need to come together with Republicans to compromise to solve problems.

Whether made out of conviction or political convenience, that message is explicitly tailored to give conservative-leaning voters permission to abandon Trump at the top of the ticket, but to keep voting for Republicans down the ballot. Which appears to be exactly what happened.

Trump was voted out.

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Yes, but he has big a huge problem coming to term with the fact he is not wanted by the majority.
I have a feeling something b-i-g is brewing here.

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The 25th Amendment… just a question of who invokes it.

Nancy Pelosi considered this when Trump was hospitalised with covid. A lot of doubt about Biden not lasting a term in office.

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I’m ROFLMAO at that meme :043::043:. Thanks Muddy. Hope you don’t mind but I’ve forwarded it to others.

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That was great, Muddy. Whoever did that is very talented. I hope they do another musical number for when Dump has to slink out of the White House forever.

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There’s mutterings In the Express that Biden is possibly looking to appoint Barack Hussein as American ambassador to the Court of St. James.

If so then a greater insult to the UK would be impossible to imagine.

Even if Biden is unaware of the huge diplomatic insult it would be there must be people around him to tell him. Or more likely it’s the people around him pulling his strings and pursuing their own toxic agenda.

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Why do you say that AD?

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Barack Hussein showed nothing but contempt towards the UK starting with his awful disrespect when formally introduced to the queen when he barely nodded in her general direction to a full bow from the waist to the Japanese emperor as well as to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

And so very much more. Maybe hike father being banged up by the Brits because of his terrorist activities had something to do with it but hate the Brits it certainly does.

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Trump’s imminent departure from the White House makes him vulnerable to lawsuits and investigations

Trump is the subject of 15 inquiries, criminal and civil, by nine federal, state and district agencies into his business and personal finances, including his tax affairs, his campaign, his inaugural committee, and charities associated with him.

Many of these are on track to go ahead separately. But because of the egregious nature and scale of Trump’s alleged offences, there have been calls for a special commission to examine the evidence. Eric Swalwell, a Democrat congressman from California, said: “When we escape this Trump hell, America needs a presidential crime commission. It should be made up of independent prosecutors who look at those who enabled a corrupt president; example one, sabotaging the mail to win an election.”

There have been reports that Trump may pardon himself before leaving office. It remains unclear whether he can do so constitutionally and the issue came up during the confirmation hearing for Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court.

But even if he could carry out the unprecedented act by a president of pardoning himself, he would still be susceptible to the state and local charges he is facing. One, by the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, cited Trump (“individual 1”) in the charges laid against his former personal lawyer Michael Cohen over campaign finance crimes related to hush-money paid to women, one of them Stormy Daniels, who allegedly had affairs with Trump.

Cohen, who pleaded guilty to the charges, had claimed under oath that Trump had directed him to make the illegal payments and that he was reimbursed for the payments by the Trump Organisation. The former lawyer, now bitterly estranged from Trump, has predicted his former boss “may soon be the first president to go from the White House straight to prison”.

:shock:

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That was brilliant Muddy! :lol:

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Donald Trump has sacked Defence Secretary Mark Esper, announcing on Twitter that the top US official has been “terminated”.

Christopher Miller, the current head of the National Counterterrorism Center, will take on the role immediately.

It follows a public falling-out between Mr Trump and Mr Esper in recent weeks.

Mr Esper clashed with the president over the White House’s attitude to the military during protests over racial injustice earlier this year.

As protests rocked the US following the death of black man George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in May, Mr Trump threatened to use troops to suppress unrest.

In June, Mr Esper, a former army officer, said the use of active-duty forces was unnecessary, in remarks that were known to have displeased the White House.

Following the clash, it was widely-speculated that the president would fire the defence secretary, although on Monday Mr Trump gave no reason for his dismissal.

Trump “The Grump” will, presumably, sack all but the sycophants in the forthcoming weeks … :!:

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Trump seems set on causing Chaos both at home and abroad before he leaves.

This will be self defeating as it will impact on ordinary people.

If he wants to be returned in 2024 he is not going about it in the right way.

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How can one person be the leader of such a large country with so many residents?:confused: That leader has not lived in all the States so will not understand the local peoples’ needs. The country may have made money, but if all States were separate countries, that traded with the others, they could have still made money.

I hated the idea of becoming another USA, and that is why I voted for Brexit. I never had a problem with the Common Market, but when it changed to the EU I could see that we were destined to become a similar disaster to the USA… and possibly led by another Trump who knew nothing about the needs of the UK! :shock:

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Indeed, how to get out of this imbroglio. :confused:

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Do a full investigation into voter fraud then decide on who the president is. A media appointment of Biden is not the answer, the legal process has to be followed and democracy upheld.

The majority decide the leader and we don’t know who that is.

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Isn’t it strange how all of a sudden being a “democrat” means ignoring democracy and the law?
:mrgreen:

There is a reason the USA’s General Services Administration hasn’t yet called a definite result, and that reason is that the outcome is not yet definite.

Arizona is just one example of vote counting alone: an estimated 65,000 votes are still to be counted & the lead so far is only a margin of under 15,000 votes.
Pennsylvania an estimated 127,00+ votes still to be counted with a far narrower lead.
Quite a few more too.

Then there are the other matters …

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Trump has accused the Democratic Party and the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) of conspiring to delay the announcement of Pfizer and BioNTech’s potential coronavirus vaccine until after last week’s election, which he ultimately lost to Joe Biden.

Mr Trump, whose campaign has said the word “concede” is not in its vocabulary as it vows to press ahead with legal challenges in key states, used Twitter to attack his opponents and the drug’s manufacturer for not having the “courage” to break the news before last Tuesday’s ballot.

Mr Biden has meanwhile been labelled an “ambulance chaser” on the social network by Fox News pundit Mark Levin in a tweet that was shared by the president, who complained the victor “had nothing to do with the vaccine” but was cheerleading the news. That came after Pfizer lambasted Mr Trump over the White House attempting to take credit for the breakthrough without playing any part in its development.

How low will Trump go … he incapacitates 9,000,000 US citizens, kills another 250,000 then attempts to steal the credit for a possible vaccine … :roll:

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How low will Trump go … he incapacitates 9,000,000 US citizens, kills another 250,000 then attempts to steal the credit for a possible vaccine … :roll
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And that’s just for starters. :slight_smile:
He still can do much more before he leaves.
A dangerous and vindictive man IMO.