Trump GUILTY of all charges

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OHhhh…tribal motivations? Haven’t heard that description since…??
But, I do understand your opinion. You prefer blaming liberals for signing Trump’s checks to his lawyers, did they have a sword to his tummy? Did they hold the phone up to his ear and make him discuss how to disguise tax fraud yearly to his administrators of Trump Organization? Did the Dems and liberals coerce Trump into flushing documents down the toillet in his fits of rage? Oh, perhaps he was defiantly giving the liberals what they wanted?

Hmmmm, I’ll digest all of this. Thank you for opening my avenues of diverting blame to anyone else.
Trump has been played, then?? Hmmmm.

End of discussion. As you say, smart humans should decide what is reality and what is emotion or belief. On that my friend, we can agree.

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You asked:

I replied giving you the answer to your question. What happens in foreign courts in a foreign country with an apparently dodgy government and judicial system is a matter for the people of that country.

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I would never alienate friends over political issues, at the end of the day they are just opinions and won’t alter things in the grand scheme of things. “It’ll all come out in the wash” as my old granny used to say… :grin:

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A lot more than is needed, heard enough. Trump is finished.

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A left wing paper.

A right wing paper.

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But…Scandinavian countries also social democratic…why do people insist on only naming corrupt governments?

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|1|Guilty- Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust|Feb. 14, 2017|

|2|Guilty- Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842457|Feb. 14, 2017|

|3|Guilty- Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842460|Feb. 14, 2017|
|4|Guilty -Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000138|Feb. 14, 2017|

|5|Guilty-Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust|March 16, 2017|

|6|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 846907|March 17, 2017|

|7|Guilty-Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000147|March 17, 2017|

|8|Guilty-Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|April 13, 2017|

|9|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858770|June 19, 2017|

|10|Guilty-Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002740|June 19, 2017|

|11|Guilty- Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|May 22, 2017|

|12|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 855331|May 22, 2017|

|13|Guilty-Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002700|May 23, 2017|

|14|Guilty-Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|June 16, 2017|

|15|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858772|June 19, 2017|

|16|Guilty-Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002741|June 19, 2017|

|17|Guilty-Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|July 11, 2017|

|18|Guilty- Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 861096|July 11, 2017|
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19|Guilty- Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002781|July 11, 2017|

|20|Guilty-Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|Aug. 1, 2017|

|21|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 863641|Aug. 1, 2017|

|22|Guilty-Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002821|Aug. 1, 2017|
|23|Guilty|-Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|Sept. 11, 2017|

|24|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 868174|Sept. 11, 2017|

|25|Guilty-Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002908|Sept. 12, 2017|

|26|Guilty-Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|Oct. 18, 2017|

|27|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 872654|Oct. 18, 2017|
|28|Guilty-Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002944|Oct. 18, 2017|

|29|Guilty-Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|Nov. 20, 2017|

|30|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 876511|Nov. 20, 2017|

|31|Guilty- Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002980|Nov. 21, 2017|
|32|Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump|Dec. 1, 2017|

|33|Guilty-Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 877785|Dec. 1, 2017|

|34|Guilty-Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 003006|Dec. 5, 2017|

And this has not even taken into account an extremist GOP protecting a President who collaborated with a foreign power to steal an election in 2016, or the many charges / lawsuits facing a man who incited an insurrection in his attempt to overturn a legal election.

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SOMETIMES you are a very wise man OGF.

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Amusing anecdote:
Trump said in Detroit that “Doc Ronny Johnson” gave him a cognitive test that he “aced.” The doctor’s name is Rep. Ronny Jackson.

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Trump will be President and that concocted trial will fall to pieces on appeal. Democrats do far worse but don’t end up in court. The Blob does pick n mix morality.

Maxine Waters incited rioting, rioting occurred, liberals don’t give it a moments thought.

Trump needs to adopt liberal principles and go after every crooked liberal politician once he’s in power

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July 11th he will be in prison or under house arrest.

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The driving issues in American politics are a complete disregard for Democracy, and the average American citizen, it is about partisan politics and extremist idealism, which are bad for both Democracy and working class America, and at some point it will reach a boiling point, which I believe, will lead to (another US) civil war, and unlike the 1860’s, will spell doom for the United States of America, and sadly, American ideology. Humans are born with a major flaw, and that flaw is greed, and is reflected in his religion and politics, and will eventually lead to the extinction of the species, for no man is an “island unto himself”, and so go one of us, will at some point be the doom of us all. I believe in order to maintain a strong and prosperous society we must , above all, maintain a policy of respect and tolerance for all, because basically, no matter our belief concepts, there is not one iota of evidence to support / deny the validity of none, but in spite of this, each concept insists it’s belief to be the driving force of life, .and while we appear to be the most intelligent species known to exist, our greed and intolerance will spell our downfall.

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US justice is a farce, and is available only to the highest bidder. Donald Trump has been known throughout his life to cheat and defraud business who have served him and his interests, and while he falsely advertises himself a “champion” of “right wing” ideology, his goal (and he has publicly forewarned us) is to become President for life of the USA, essentially another Kim Jong Un / Vladimir Putin, a lifetime dictator.

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I would love to agree with you, but the USA is a Corpocracy, a country run and controlled by corporate America, and the affluent. A country where one’s political clout and money determines the justice one receives, and nothing else. Hunter Biden(because his father is Joe Biden) is as much the pawn of partisan politics as he is of the crimes he committed, while Donald Trump has committed far more egregious crimes (including treason and conspiring with a foreign power) but is protected by his money and political influence, and has openly avowed vengeance against his political rivals, no different than a Putin or a Kim Jong Un, and if freedom loving Americans do not go to the polls and stop his Presidential run they will deserve what they get, and that, at some point, will erupt in civil conflict, which will, no matter the outcome, will give us a different USA who is no longer a major player in world economics and / or Democracy.

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Conservatives are intolerant and insensitive to any ideology which differs from their own “man invented” ideological concepts, and has been a failure to society, both in the US and worldwide.A successful society has input from both Left and Right, but bothsides work together for the good of society as a whole, but have proven to be no more than pawns of Corpocracy, pawns of the rich and affluent.

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When one is obviously more interested in ideology than justice, it becomes a bad omen for any society in general, because without the ability of our independent federal judiciary to act as a check and balance against abuse by the executive branch, we are left with rule of power, not rule of law, and the words of a statute or even the Constitution can lose all meaning.

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And that throughout history has been the the “woes” of the world, right wing ideology, or any ideology built around an unprovable / disproable concept which is intolerant , manipulative, and self serving, serving only the greed of man (species)…I am neither for / against any religion and / or belief concept, for science has given us the only logical approach to religion and / or belief in a creator. Through science, the history of the universe, earth, and the evolution of life we can surmise the probability of “Intelligent Design” which in turn suggests the “possibility” of a creator, but of more than this there can be no certainty, it’s all speculation / theory. Everything you have ever read in your life was written by man (species), and inspired by his belief concept. Throughout the world there are many belief concepts, and of each concepts there are many different sects, which suggests each concept has it’s own uncertainty as how to approach / practice it’s ideology, so to proclaim/ expect everyone else to practice / follow a concept / life style they are uncertain of is unreasonable / intolerant, and that is why Democracy is so important, it allows different ideological concepts to merge / live together in peace / harmony. Man (species) is the most intelligent species currently known to man, and his potential is unlimited, but his greed / intolerance can / will be his ticket to extinction if it goes unchecked.

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And we are all selfish,some much more than others obviously.

Yes,he’s certainly made no secret of what he intends to do.

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Greed is a survival instinct, all humans are born with it, and in our earliest stages of development, a key element to our survival, not unlike animals living in the wild today. The problem arises when we started to build communities / cities / towns it then became more important to rely on each other for the survival / growth / prosperity of the whole, in lieu of the one, at this point greed became a detriment, instead of an asset.

Self-preservation is a behavior or set of behaviors that ensures the survival of an organism. It is thought to be universal among all living organisms. For sentient organisms, pain and fear are integral parts of this mechanism.

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Justice / politics in the USA, as much as you can buy / have the political clout to influence, basically a farce.

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