Trump & Covid

Boris is a lot younger and has a healthier lifestyle. It’s shocking that he has been admitted so fast. Just shows how indiscriminate this disease is.

President Trump’s secretary said the move was out of an “abundance of caution”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54382914

That’s what I meant when I said we won’t be told the truth Annie, because it was only at tea time they said he only had mild symptoms. If that were true, why would he whipped off to hospital so suddenly
I wonder how his wife is too? I haven’t heard much about her hardly at all.

The “cocktail of drugs” reference is somewhat alarming:

Mr Trump’s physician Sean Conley said in a statement earlier on Friday that the president had “as a precautionary measure received an 8g dose of Regeneron’s polyclonal antibody cocktail*” at the White House. The medication is administered to help reduce virus levels and speed recovery.

He was also taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and aspirin, Dr Conley said.

*

Regeneron Pharmaceuticals announced earlier this week that its coronavirus antibody cocktail reduced viral load for patients enrolled in early and late-stage trialswhich are ongoing.

The company gave Trump the cocktail — which is not yet approved by the FDA —through a compassionate use request, since the drug is still being evaluated for its safety and efficacy in tests with hospitalized and non-hospitalized patients, Regeneron said in a Friday press release.

Regeneron defines its compassionate use program as “intended for patients with serious or life-threatening conditions who do not have any viable or available treatment options, and are unable to participate in ongoing clinical trials.”

:shock:

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-covid19-test-white-house-99b30c9b-604d-4ab4-9914-b4cee28e7c6d.html

It seems he also has a fever, a cough and nasal congestion…

Unnamed sources told CNN and Reuters news agency that Trump has a fever. He also has a cough and nasal congestion, two sources told the Washington Post. None of these symptoms have been officially confirmed.

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-covid19-test-white-house-99b30c9b-604d-4ab4-9914-b4cee28e7c6d.html

White House physician Sean Conley said the first lady has “a mild cough and headache.”

Mags they said on the news that he would not be given experimental treatment unless the docs were very concerned. So I take the press releases from the White house etc with a pinch of salt.

Melania’s prognosis is probably ok. She is much younger and fit with what appears to be a healthy lifestyle. The odds are in her favour.

I guess they have to be economic with the truth because just the very news of his illness caused the dow index etc to fall sharply. Speculation can cause bankruptcies.

What’s even more alarming:

President Donald Trump’s coronavirus diagnosis comes after a busy week running his administration and campaigning ahead of the 3 November election, during which time he has interacted with many high-level officials.

The president announced positive test results for himself and his wife, Melania, in a tweet on Friday, at around 01:00 local time (5:00 GMT).

This followed a positive diagnosis for his close aide, Hope Hicks, who reportedly started feeling symptoms on Wednesday and tested positive the next day (Thursday).

It takes five days on average from the moment a person is infected for symptoms to start showing, but it can be much longer, so the World Health Organization advises a 14-day isolation period.

The peak infectious period for the virus is the day before symptoms appear (Tuesday)and the two days after (Friday), although a large proportion of people never show any symptoms at all.

Trump displayed symptoms on Friday, so he’d been infected for about 5 days and became infectious on Thursday.

For the last week, Trump has “guested” at rallies/fundraisers every day - all were heavily attended, with many people not wearing masks … :shock:

On Thursday, he went ahead with a roundtable and reception in New Jersey even though his close aide, Hope Hicks, had tested positive for the virus … :!:

Yes Annie, I suppose we will hear many different reports at this stage. His age and weight are against him from the start.

Many recall the time Trump mocked Clinton’s pneumonia

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54382914

Many social media users are pointing to the time - almost exactly four years ago - that Trump mocked Hillary Clinton for having pneumonia.

“She can’t make it 15 feet to her car? Give me a break,” he said in October 2016.

Just over a month later he won the presidential election.

The biter bit … ?

The international press aren’t too sympathetic, either:

German media seemed somewhat unsurprised. “Trump usually does not wear a mask in public”, wrote the centre-right Die Welt, while the centrist Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung pointed out that the pandemic did not deter him from making numerous major election campaign appearances.

Media in France echoed the sentiment that Mr Trump undermined his own health by underestimating the virus. “After months of catastrophic handling of the pandemic in the USA, after months of lies and contradictory messages to his supporters… Donald Trump has tested positive for Covid-19,” wrote Libération.

Hi

I do not like the man, however I would not wish the virus on anyone.

My sentiments too Swimmy i think most people think like that although I wonder if it was Joe Biden who was ill would he be sympathetic…somehow I doubt it.

Chinese whispers and a lot of speculation will no doubt be around too.

I’m just hoping the outcome is that he hasn’t died. Hopefully he’ll survive and perhaps he won’t be so blase about the virus.

No one is safe anymore :cry:

Stay safe all

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/03/politics/white-house-physician-trump-covid/index.html

In a memo shared by White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, White House physician Navy Cmdr. Dr. Sean Conley wrote
:
I release the following information with the permission of President Donald J. Trump.

This afternoon, in consultation with specialists from Walter Reed and Johns Hopkins University, I recommended movement of the President up to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for further monitoring. This evening I am happy to report that the President is doing very well. He is not requiring any supplemental oxygen, but in consultation with specialists we have elected to initiate Remdesivir* therapy. He has completed his first dose and is resting comfortably.

  • Remdesivir - controversial drug - a broad-spectrum antiviral medication usually authorized for emergency use in most countries, including the US - its efficacy is contentious and limited - it may ease symptoms but it does not cure any condition - its’ cost precludes general use.

Trump is the lucky recipient of the benefit of the UKs RECOVERY trial having been given Remdesivir and antibodies.
I hope he remembers this when he makes a recovery which I hope does .

Although I don’t like him as a person I would not wish him ill as some people apparently have done.

AFAIK, the RECOVERY trial does not include Remdesivir and Regeneron’s “antibody cocktail”, REGN-COV2, is still being evaluated:

A range of potential treatments have been suggested for COVID-19 but nobody knows if any of them will turn out to be more effective in helping people recover than the usual standard of hospital care which all patients will receive. The RECOVERY Trial is currently testing some of these suggested treatments:
[LIST]
[]Low-dose Dexamethasone (now only recruiting children)
[
]Azithromycin (a commonly used antibiotic)
[]Tocilizumab (an anti-inflammatory treatment given by injection)
[
]Convalescent plasma (collected from donors who have recovered from COVID-19 and contains antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 virus)
[*]REGN-COV2 (a combination of monoclonal antibodies directed against coronavirus).
[/LIST]

REGN-COV2 is the first specifically designed COVID-19 therapy being evaluated by RECOVERY. It was selected in part based on its emerging safety profile in humans, pre-clinical data showing it could protect against viral escape mutations, and prevention and treatment studies in non-human primates showing it reduced the amount of virus and associated damage in the lungs. REGN-COV2 is currently being studied in two Phase 2/3 clinical trials for the treatment of COVID-19 and in a Phase 3 trial for the prevention of COVID-19 in household contacts of infected individuals.

A crowded Rose Garden ceremony last Saturday at which Donald Trump announced Amy Coney Barrett as his supreme court nominee has come under scrutiny after at least seven figures in attendance tested positive for coronavirus, including the president himself.

On Friday, the president’s former counsellor, Kellyanne Conway, announced she had tested positive and had “mild” symptoms. Two Republican senators, Thom Tillis and Mike Lee, also announced they have also tested positive. University of Notre Dame’s president, John Jenkins, was also later diagnosed with the disease.

Speculation is growing that the event, which took place on 25 September, could have been the source of Trump’s infection and possibly a super-spreader event, as confirmed cases rise. Barrett said Friday that she had not tested positive for the virus.

A visual guide produced by Politico demonstrated the growing number of Trump officials and allies who have tested positive for coronavirus since attending the ceremony. Many of those who have since announced they tested positive for the virus were seated close together.

An unnamed journalist who attended the event also tested positive, according to ABC News.

Not a fan of him but I hope with the right treatment he gets better

Some disturbing reports:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54382914

One would imagine the purpose of the White House medical team’s Saturday morning press conference was to reassure the public that the president is doing well and that the nation’s top medical experts are on top of the situation.

Instead, they created more confusion.

Sean Conley, the president’s physician, said Trump was diagnosed “72 hours ago” – which would be Wednesday morning. That’s before the president travelled to Minnesota for a campaign rally that night, before he flew to New Jersey for a fund-raiser on Thursday and more than 36 hours before the president revealed his coronavirus diagnosis to the world in a late-night tweet.

The timeline is further muddied by the revelation that the president was given an antiviral treatment sometime on Thursday – also before his announcement.

Conley tried to paint a positive picture of the president’s current medical condition, although he was evasive about whether Trump had ever been given oxygen to assist his breathing.

Several US media are now reporting that President Trump was given oxygen at the White House before he left for hospital.

The New York Times quotes two people as saying that Trump had trouble breathing on Friday and “his oxygen level dropped”, leading doctors to give him supplemental oxygen.

AP news agency is also reporting that he was given oxygen at the White House, quoting a source.

At a briefing on Trump’s condition earlier, his physician Dr Sean Conley said he wasn’t on oxygen at the moment. But his doctors refused repeatedly to rule out that he had ever been on supplementary oxygen.

Confused … :?: