I’m not disagreeing that EU citizens do not have a direct vote for the leader of the EU. But I would note that out of the last few PMs of the UK (Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak) the record for people voting for them is 3 out of 7. Just noting this fact in our free, democratic and civilised country.
Yes I totally agree with you strathmore, and my hope is that a new party can be formed more aligned to the needs of the common people, who outnumber the Oxbridge and Eton educated elite. As you rightly suggest, It would appear that we have no choice whatsoever when Rishi was installed, and both the main parties seem to be morphing into one.
It’s different in the UK, here we vote for the party not for the leader. Conservatives won with the biggest majority since Thatcher in the 2019 referendum with the party having a mandate to “Get Brexit Done”.
Ursula Von Der Leyen, on the other hand wasn’t even on the ballot.
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Totally agree with you there OGF.
Too many globalists in the parties and too much influence from NGOs.
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Of course, Johnson had nothing to do with the Tory win. And Corbyn had nothing to do with the Labour loss. I missed that aspect of the 2019 election. Must have been looking at some minority, esoteric news feed that suggested otherwise - and suggested it before, after and long after that election.
PS shame Brexit’s far from done, isn’t it? What, Johnson was lying? Surely not!
PS#2 I do like how you refer back to a “Thatcher win” at the same time as claiming the UK votes for the party not the leader. Hilarious. Do you actually consider what you post?
The red wall wasn’t voting for Johnson, they were holding their noses and voting to get Brexit done. If you recall, Farage stood down his candidates so as not to split the vote to get Johnson his majority.
One thing Brexit has done is expose the utter sewer that is Parliament, Whitehall and the civil service (like Trump did in the USA). We have a generation of garbage MPs, being advised by entitled millennials, wealthy globalists and WEF drones. We saw that when the membership voted against Sunak and for Liz Truss to become our leader of the Conservative Party. 44 days or so later, her chancellor had to be sacked, to be replaced by Jeremy Hunt, the most useless cabinet minister (except for Hancock) and arch remainer in chief - failing at least 3 times to be elected by the membership to be PM and getting the least votes of any other candidate. Then Truss, bullied and lied to by the Bank of England, IMF and OECD was forced to resign shortly after, with the membership denied a vote and instead Sunak, the guy we didn’t want and the ex-chancellor who destroyed the economy through lockdowns was given the top job.
Since then we now have the Windsor Agreement which basically is a wrapper around the Irish Protocol and binds the UK even further to EU rules. Next will be membership of the EEA and then full membership of the EU through the back door with no voting rights.
Thats the state of our parliament. So the only way out of this is to completely destroy the Conservatives by letting Labour in then voting back in a true conservative party to finish the job.
Hunts budget is a massive signal of obedience to Brussels. That should tell us all we need to know.
And thats why the government needs to be moved out of London, it needs a complete separation from the left that have infiltrated the party and run it from the inside right on their doorsteps.
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Gawd, a Trump supporter as well. Why am I not surprised? S’pose it explains quite a bit.
Drain the swamp, drain the swamp, bang her up, bang her up, hang the VP, hang the VP. Can’t wait to see the quality of the Northern parliament you envision.
But you do make a necessary point. Truss would have been excellent and had a clear economic vision, it was just the bad BoE and its friends what did it for her. Err, wait, that’s not right. Truss is and was an utter idiot who did more damage to the UK in 44 days than any other PM in history. There, that’s more accurate.
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The idiots are those who believed the IMF predictions of the £30billion black hole she caused by blowing up the economy.
Except we have a £30 billion unforeseen bonus Hunt has used in his budget. It was all lies as usual.
Truss did no damage at all. She was giving us the economy we wanted, but we were denied it by the twats in Whitehall. Truss was no idiot, all she did was be a true Conservative, we just weren’t allowed to have it.
You’re not fooling anyone either, wanting Brexit to be a success and all that
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Spot on…
I suspect my view point is somewhat too nuanced for you. Let me try again. First, it was always clear that Brexit was not a good idea. Now that it is reality, it is even more clear that the Brexit that we have is an even worse idea than was promised at the time of the referendum. But it is (thanks to the worst government in living memory) the Brexit we have.
Now that the UK is out, it is also clear that getting back in to the EU will be an enormous challenge. Probably, right now, an unfeasible challenge. The hurdles and the obligations will be too much too bear. So, I get it, the UK is out of the EU.
However, there are ways to minimise the damage and reduce the pain. That is my position. However my solution is the polar opposite of the hard Brexit fans who see solutions in even greater remove from the EU. But, actually, the specifics of the solution do not matter in terms of the core challenge you demand of me. Do I want the UK’s exit from the EU to work? Yes, of course I do. To consider any other outcome is stupid. Its just that we differ in the route to make the UK’s exit work.
Understand?
Now back to Truss. Your defense of the witless one is pathetic. She flopped with a floppy idea that was proven to be too full of flop. And therefore, predictably, it flopped badly. What is most interesting to me here is your defense of her failing. You seem to blame the markets - because after all it was the markets that voted that her policy was bad. Do you realise that you are saying that the free market was wrong?
We don’t want to be back in the EU, the problem is we haven’t Brexited properly.
Truss’ economics were completely sound. She didn’t fail either, she was cut off at the knee by the Bank of England her own party and the civil service. If Truss had implemented her policies, by now the UK would be romping away with growth and a thriving economy. But we aren’t allowed that - we are run by unelected, unwanted socialists.
I haven’t blamed the markets either - I blamed the banks, her own party and the civil service. Read my posts more carefully. It was only a few years ago that Macron admitted the reason he won’t allow France a referendum on EU membership is that they will vote to leave. That feeling is growing all over France due to the immigration disaster that is becoming catastrophic.
Don’t you think it rather strange that Quasi was summoned to New York and an urgent meeting with the IMF when he should have been sorting stuff out here? He then returned home to the UK and handed in his notice and the inexperienced Truss had the rug pulled out from under her after she was overwhelmingly voted in by the party members…Obviously, they thought her plan was good…It just goes to show who really runs this country regardless of who you vote for.
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It was a conspiracy. I’ve seen prove. There is a transcript going around in the dark net that documents zoom calls between the BoE, couple of CEO’s of big UK banks, head of the civil service, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. Nancy Pelosi is also on one call. Between planning the next pandemic and lockdown, and setting out the plan for world population culling, they detail how they were going to bring Truss down. It was all planned, probably from before Truss won the leadership election. This cabal of conspirators was terrified that Truss’ policy would be such a huge success that it would create such massive growth in the UK that ordinary people might even benefit - and they couldn’t have that. Yes, it was this cabal of socialist. I’ve always thought bank CEO’s were closet socialists. This proves it.
When the socialists don’t want to accept the truth they always say it’s a conspiracy theory LOL.
The OBR, IMF all got every prediction wrong. Your revising history.
Except your are the one making up a conspiracy of banks, civil servants and rogue tories. Which makes you the socialist? Who would have thought?
Stop making things up
Anne Widdecombe joins Reform to put up the fight for Northern Ireland. This is great news and gives the DUP more support to reject the Windsor Framework.
No framework, no Stormont that will be the message soon from NI.
Brexit Party now back together joining Reform UK with Ben Habib, June Mummery, Nigel Farage and Belinda DeLucy (Alex Phillips joined a couple of months ago).
Just gets better
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I literally weep for the UK. A phalange of failures preening themselves in order to get what they already got. I’m getting the andrex out.
If we are shafted, no point in getting the Durex out. 