The USA and the settler colony of Israel has started a war with Iran

the sort of military strategy we are seeing is called making it up as you go along…

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It has a military term, it’s called targets of oprtunity .

But in plain English ( not American) it means biting off more than you can chew , making a cock-up of it and getting desperate for an exit strategy.
Could be talking about Vietnam.

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it’s like setting off a Catherine wheel firework

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The world will breathe a sigh of relief when he’s out of office … thank God he’s limited to two terms.

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Here is the genius of Trump.
Attack Iran while ignoring any advice that this will quickly become problematic and in particular ignore the likelihood that Iran closes the straights of Hormuz (after all, they done it before). Also, conveniently ignore the fact that Russia is key ally of Iran and the supplier of much of its military hardware.
Find that the choke hold that Iran has applied on oil supply means that the price of oil sky rockets. Trump then panics and pushes out oil held in strategic reserves (not a good idea). The price of oil keeps going up.
Here’s the thing - high oil prices really help Russia. Its their main income. Trump is not just stopping any support to Ukraine, he has just pumped Russia’s funding for the war with Ukraine.
Then Trump really goes for gold. He thinks that if he drops the sanctions on Russian oil then this new flow of oil might help reduce the price. Of course it has no effect on the oil prices. But it does further boost the economy of Russia. That is, the Russia that helps Iran.
Is Trump terminally stupid?

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I think he’s first and foremost a businessman so there will be some angle somewhere that brings him some personal gain.
He’s certainly not in it for humanitarian reasons.

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We are the Trump haters, happy boys and girls. And we all sing together…

Nope … not a hater,.
I always rate men by their performance
:face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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There is none so blind that will not see. It’s the exact same tactic used on 46 different countries. They didn’t see it then and the don’t see it now.
He has pulled the same current tactic on two other countries. In short, 48 successful objectives completed and one in the works. It is a good record no matter that other just don’t understand/comprehend the tactical operations, that there for the whole world to see. Oh well.

All the military strategic arm chair warriors here has seen the cause and effect. All except the ones that are to blind to see. Not only is Russia a key allie with Iran. News flash, so is China, North Korea and of course the arm chair warriors already know this. The countries the support Russia behind the scenes are India, Brazil, France and minor countries in Africa.
The arm chair warriors have seen the supply from Iran of drones hasn’t slowed down it has completely stopped. And Russia has pulled out of moth balls, the old out dated tanks and trying to get the old Soviet era tanks back. if you don’t see the loses recently in Ukraine of men, equipment and land, Russia doesn’t have the resources to support two fronts.

Wonder if this was on the news around the world.
https://youtube.com/shorts/h9FiAKTLbLE?si=oXAWSLopBFpujeQ4

And from Canada

https://youtube.com/shorts/PbR5dHitOZ8?si=Ph7V4jmiJen5zVew

And Venezuelans

https://youtube.com/shorts/dy5PqiSKgbc?si=-fE-RlOson4_xG73

https://youtube.com/shorts/CoRvBHwXOzw?si=V-gbP-ZTw_zjDsCr

And that’s not what is being told around the world

You filched these straight from the Oval Office film editing floor didn’t you … before Trump could post them on his Truth Social personal fandom site.

They prove nothing. People cheering, dancing in the streets and thanking Trump. I’m sure there’d be a few street parties if Trump had been assassinated rather than Khamenei.

it seems that at the sunday air force one conference Mr T said something to the effect of “maybe we shouldn’t even be there” ref Iran…is that part of the “targets of oprtunity” strategy, or part of the “if he makes a mistake he adapts to the change” approach? I’m waiting for him to blame European and other nations for the US invasion of Iran…

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Not men wearing skirts. That’s cross-dressing. Women wearing skirts.

Unless you mean kilts, aka Scottish dresses? :stuck_out_tongue:

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And if it is a great success, the anti Trump brigade will still be whinging and moaning and whinging and moaning.
Back in the Operation Sealion days, the population had a pair of balls. Faced with hundreds of barges crossing the Channel, the British learnt to set the sea alight, which may not have worked, but it sure as hell scared the hell out of the Germans when news leaked out about it.
The USA will sort this little problem out, no problem. Then all the whinging whining, no hope spongers from the EU will be trying to kiss his ass again for favours and protection.

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That sounds a lot like respectability politics, btw - they won’t like the ‘pick me’ types any more than the others, although some in minorities/progressive politics play the Uncle Tom/Leopards At My Face Party role. Neville Chamberlain waving their personal note from Adolf. LOL.

We don’t win by dividing over things, and if you believe that ‘woke’ causes aren’t bad, why the aversion if they are lumped together? Very odd.

Right wing are going to be bigoted whatever we do, if we scare the horses or likewise. That’s what they do. But policing our own is very bad.

And I know where the term comes from - I was there, on Twitter when it started being used by black Twitter. But it doesnt mean it can’t be used for other things, language does that.

Or can I reclaim ‘mashups’ now since software bros and others stole that term from my community?

That was annoying, but what language does, it moves and changes.

Don’t you worry about that Australia is about to get you out of the pickle, we have plenty of rare earths.

I am afraid that is right. Personally I can see Iran being another Afghanistan or Vietnam for the USA, they will give up and just quietly walk away.

China and Russia must be laughing their socks off

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No, with your high level of security, tell me where the oval office film editing is. You’ll have to check truth social because I’ve never seen it.

What were those clip suppose to prove that you’re calming that doesn’t prove anything.

So you support political violence! Than you understand and just don’t want to admit to it.

FYI, read the attachment clips, it clearly states YouTube. As I said blind by those that don’t want to see.

Trump just said on cspan, Europe needs us, we don’t need them.

OK then - fine - have fun with your nice little war, LOL.

Just posted this online, I think it summed it up:

"We were repeatedly told we didn’t do anything in previous wars, stood at the back, our war dead is apparently fiction, and US did everything.

So Europeans are like: "go on then! Show us how you did it all alone?

Cue ‘special relationship’ emotional blackmail in 3,2,1…"