@Zaphod , Off topic, but pertinent!!
I wish they would focus on illegal channell crossings ??
The situation is escalating rapidly !!
Over 900 yesterday, and 1,000 today !!
And that’s the ones they " caught" WTF!!
Donkeyman! 
There are still shortages in the south.
So I see but on the bright side Bloomberg says that in London & the SE 16% of stations are without fuel.
Which surely means 84% have got fuel.
Bloomberg says ?
@ Muddy, Been doing a bit of googling, and SE England seems
to be definitely settling down now,? The Midlands and the
North can be classed as normal once again !!
Another couple of days should see the end of the “crisis” as
long as the media stops trying to create mayhem !!
Donkeyman! 
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The price of litre of diesel has gone up from 137.8 to 141.9 almost overnight. Fuel stations here have about the usual number of cars at the pumps without any queues at all, perhaps that’s partly due to the increase in price plus the panic buying seems to be over? Maybe that will switch to food with queues at the supermarkets now?
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Will we have to get the Sally Army in?
Only if they each hold an HGV license.
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I know this is the Daily Fail and there is bound to be an “agenda” somewhere for some but, read on because it gives another explanation as to why there is a lack of British HGV drivers out there.
The shortage of lorry drivers is nonsense, just drive down the M1 or A1 any time of day and notice the endless convoy of lorries, containing Polish, Dutch and German wagons. We are being taken for fools…
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I live just off the A1(M) and see that all the time. Sometimes in fact to exit at the slip road I have to get in lane one miles before it due to the ‘nose to tail’ lorries in that lane. Failure to do that means ‘cutting’ in front of one, travelling so close to one another they get very annoyed if that happens.
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Foxy, I feel frustrated when you keep spouting the obvious, are you trying to make me redundant? 
Hi
I disagree.
Yes, there are plenty of foreign HGVs on the roads,
They are delivering imports and then returning.
They are not delivering inside the UK.
Drive down the A! or M1 (among other motorways) Swim, the majority of trucks are British.
Almost nose to tail at times. There would be no room for any more lorries even if we had the drivers.
There is a large distribution complex near here and the feeder roads are chocablock with parked up HGVs, it is doubtable that all these are waiting for an unloading slot, most likely they are empty and awaiting instruction for a backload.
To wherever on the continent.
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I am a long way away from the A1 and M1 OGF.
I do not doubt what you say.
I know what is happening locally.
Our big agricultural contractors are idle because of a lack of HGVs.
We are dumping milk because of a lack of drivers.
The big egg farms are short of feed and short of drivers to deliver the eggs.
Look at your supermarket eggs, the use by date is getting shorter.
All this adds to costs and retail prices.
Just in time is not working, and the effects of this will be higher inflation.
Foxy my brother is a HGV a driver alough he only works part time now
The shortage of drivers is not new he is always being called to come in and work it’s been like this for years .
In Germany they are sending letters out to all who hold HGV licences which used to be issued when you took your test many years ago .The result is that many older people are been asked to come back and drive .
As one lady told me laughing I can hardly park my car in the car park anymore much less be at the wheel of a giant truck the thought is hilarious but slightly alarming !
Muddy,
It’s interesting that other Countries are experiencing the shortage of HGV Drivers.
Our lovely media doesn’t talk, so much, about that as it might spoil their anti British fun.
Or, perhaps, anti Brexit?
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Given that other countries are being affected I often wonder if the ‘just in time’ economy has reached and now exceeded existing capabilities. For instance all these goods, whatever they are, being transported here, there and everywhere all over the world, is that really necessary? The varieties of food we see that are available these days, out of season fruit and vegetables etc., is that really necessary. As nice as it is to have choice does it make economic sense to have say, 20 different varieties of crisps or so many different items of different foods generally? Without this we would all survive. Nobody would starve the same as in the years immediately after WWII, in that time we had basic meals, what was actually necessary and a diet which ensured no obesity, unlike what we see today. I believe our lifestyles then made us healthier than we are today in that respect. No sitting around looking at screens and not getting the exercise we need to stay healthy. We are all being drawn into this as technology changes our lives, it seems to me it is just a downward spiral to an eventual situation where this cannot be stopped.
Or is this all down to greed in many ways, both personal greed and also business greed in the need to be making more and more profit?
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