No …nothing will convince that Burnham has used anything other than dubious and dodgy means to get in power.
I even reckon he won’t last 6 months… there’s just too many backstabbers in politics now,
I’ve watched one or two interviews of his from years back … he has the bland, inscrutable face of the natural liar or ‘misdirector’ down to perfection… you know the ones, where they manage to never say a word.
Well Trump has already waded in and said that Burnham is a liberal. Funny how language and especially political language evolves. Trump meant communist. But we read liberal and being in the centre and most likely progressive. So when Trump says that Burnham is liberal we think, oh, I thought he was further to the left than that. So all good then.
Starmer is nearly free.
Good times bad times you know I had my share 
Hi
Starmer has to go, having a leadership election will just result in Labour fighting amongst themselves over the summer, with the other Parties watching with glee.
These are unprecedented times for the politicians and the electorate, hot potatoes have never been so unattractive.
They’re all a waste of space. None of the Labour party would make a decent leader … I don’t like Burnham but then again I don’t like Streeting or Rayner either …or Kemi Badenoch …or Nigel Farage …
The outlook looks grim.
Aww Morty… 
My first choice would be Farage, and I quite like that Badenoch woman…They are the politicians that are more aligned to my thoughts.
I’m not saying I like everything they propose, but if they are true to their word we can tidy up the small print later…
I used to like Farage … this ‘gift’ of 5 million isn’t doing his popularity any good though is it.
but, if you’re talking instead of taking a punt on a new political party … then I can see Reform’s appeal.
The Labour party has forgotten its roots, the reason it was started - to represent and take care of the working people of this country! I speak as someone raised in a Labour supporting household, my father was a union rep. and campaigned for Labour candidates in elections - I remember him telling me he no longer recognised the party he had supported for so long. Burnham has shown he is only interested in his own political progress, dropping those who supported him in Manchester as soon as he saw an opportunity for personal advancement.
That’s the irony of it all, the more folks you move off the breadline, the less of a voter base you have, (as a socialist party) victims of their own success maybe?
The adage “the working class can kiss my ass, I’ve got the foreman’s job at last” comes to mind 
Have to disagree with you spitfire - in the past working people continued to support the Labour party but now the Labour party no longer support working people - they much rather keep people having to depend on handouts
This depicts how easily we can be betrayed by our politicians.
Similarities from either side of the fence.
<<< A Tory supporter until and since. BoJo and those who succeeded him.
Together with Wife. Ray Mawby’s Agents Totes 1960’s.
Elected only to discover.
He was subsequently exposed as a spy for the then Communist Czechoslovakia.
Disillusioned, neither of us ever promoted or physically supported ANY Politician.
With other similar betrayals since.
As so many. The route to Apathy.
With less than 50% of eligible voters. Voting at all.
Suggesting. That is behind the throne.
Civil Servants and what guidance they choose to supply or conceal, Media consorts thirsty for Sensationalism.
Is the way. Our Quasi Democracy. Pans Out.
Recent classic example of Starmer. Being misinformed about " LORD" !!! Mandelson. With Miliband In [Brackets]
Mistrust and lack of Transparency >> Apathy.
Envisaging a Way Out and Stability.
#1. Pollsters recognise that the turnout in electing Burnam, The largest for three decades, is Paramount
#2. Although a Constituency. The MP is for Parliment/The Nation.
Councillor elections for localised issues.
Starmer, who has been put through the mincer and Professionally Recognised.
Together. As a Duo. With Burnam.
Successfully approved at Home. Yet to experience. That stability at home.
Also requires Experience. Coping with Instabilities Abroad.
Protocol and Practical in Harmony.
Hi Sheila
I have never met Burnham, but I have had very good reports about him from people I used to work with and who I am still in touch with.
He uses a system of communication very rarely used by Politicians of any variety.
If he seriously wants to know what is going on, he starts with the phrase
I want to know, in confidence exactly what the problem is and the best way of resolving it as soon as possible.
He sticks by his word,gets the thing resolved and hates coverups, at least at the level which and my successors operate on.
This is such a refreshing change and enables far more to be done,much quicker.
It is this attitude which results in staff admiring him and doing far more than they would for others who would happily stab you ,
This is the big difference between him and Starmer.
Things get done,not left gathering dust on a table whilst the Boss flies off somewhere to be seen at a Conference abroad rather than fixing the things which are important to the little people like us.
The disgusting mess of the Post Office Scandal is a prime example.
This country has an evolving demographic which, ultimately has a vote, this is the great leveler for all political parties because they all have the same audience to entice.
My concern with Burnham is that he doesn’t appear to have any policy - except moving “No.10” to Manchester. Why did he refuse to answer questions from journalists after his speech even banning one particular journalist from attending?
Time we had a proper northerner in charge.
Foxy for PM!!
I’m having to watch France 24 to get some news about what’s happening in the world other than the political rubbish in the uk
Is it just a problem with the politicians? After all government is more than the talking shop of Westminster. Back in the middle of Covid times I’d a few discussions with some folk in the civil service who had been overwhelmed by the new initiatives and major projects that the pandemic demanded. They were very negative about the abilities of the 400,000 plus civil servants to take on such projects, design the plan, set up the teams, manage the project, react to changes, etc. So they were buying in consultancy help all over the place.
That is not a good basis for any government to try to implement change.
