Six Years on

it’s not the size of the issue its the principle! - all for one and one for all remember dante>?

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@gumbud , What you talking about gummy “serious issue” ??
We werent going to war or nuffin like that, we just wanted to leave the club !!
Bloody hell we werent trying to leave the mafia either were we ??? :thinking::thinking:
Donkeyman! :-1::-1:

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Hardly, it just says that the vote was too close to make such a massive and important change. There are many examples where a reasonable margin is required for any change/action to take place, for example to impeach a US president.

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sounds like a bloody war to me atm??

@Bruce , Yebbut the vote was reaffirmed in the general election later
with a mandate to GET BREXIT DONE Brucy ??
With an overwhelming majority too !!
Should have been end of story ??
Donkeyman! :-1::frowning::-1:

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overwhelming where ya get that word from - bubblegum factory?

@gumbud , Submit yah bugger !!!
Donkeyman!! :frowning::frowning:

General Elections are never fought on a single issue and you have carried on at length about the government being lead by remainers after that election.

Whether the UK stayed in or left the EU was/is of no consequence to me but the division expressed in these pages show how unsatisfactory the actual result was with such a tiny majority. Half the country was unhappy about it there is no getting over that.

Britain was already a fractured society, Brexit just increased division instead of bringing the nation together which a clear vote would have done.

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@Bruce , Yep. You could be right, but its too late now and time to get
on with it !!
Donkeyman!

Yep, That is very true.

The UK relies on imports because we do not make enough things. There was a conscious decision in the 80’s that industry, and especially heavy industry, could disappear in the UK. Instead the UK would rely on services and especially financial services. Other European countries did not take the same approach. Spain for example massively supported its automotive sector and embryonic aerospace sector. Italy supported train manufacture - getting the UK’s high speed train design for almost nothing and developing the pendilino. Which lots of countries, UK included, bought. It is the fault of UK governments over the last 4 decades that we have to buy in so many goods.

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Interesting quote, from the DT, about Starmer & Brexit :-

" Sir Keir Starmer is facing a Labour revolt over Brexit after he vowed not to take Britain back into the Single Market.

In a keynote speech on Britain’s future outside the European Union, Sir Keir pledged to “make Brexit work” and said he would not seek to join the Single Market or a customs union."

Interesting about turn, by Starmer, if true , & if he’s not making false promises?

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The one concerning Boris was Bruce…
2019 United Kingdom general election - Wikipedia.

Quote…
The 2019 United Kingdom general election was held on Thursday, 12 December 2019. It resulted in the Conservative Party receiving a landslide majority of 80 seats.[n 5] The Conservatives made a net gain of 48 seats and won 43.6% of the popular vote – the highest percentage for any party since 1979.[3]

Having failed to obtain a majority in the 2017 general election, the Conservative Party had faced prolonged parliamentary deadlock over Brexit while it governed in minority with the support of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP). This situation led to the resignation of the Prime Minister, Theresa May, and the selection of Boris Johnson as Conservative leader and Prime Minister in July 2019. Johnson could not induce Parliament to approve a revised withdrawal agreement by the end of October, and chose to call for a snap election, which the House of Commons supported via the Early Parliamentary General Election Act 2019.[4] Opinion polls up to polling day showed a firm lead for the Conservatives against the Labour Party throughout the campaign.[5]

The Conservatives won 365 seats, their highest number and proportion of seats since 1987, and recorded their highest share of the popular vote since 1979; many of their gains were made in long-held Labour seats, dubbed the ‘red wall’,

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Oh come on! That’s very selective piece of quoting from a very long article about the election and the many policies campaigned on. Quite disingenuous.

There was tax reform, more spending on the NHS, climate action and many other policies raised during the campaign in that same article. Don’t you think the leadership of Corbyn had any effect on the outcome? There were many issues Brexit was just one of them. Really, you can do better than this.

Another of your desperate posts I think OGF.

See! Everyone is in it for themselves. They would all sell their family on gumtree if it helped their cause :rage:

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So true Pixie, so true… :+1:

I think I might know who you mean. The one who talks bollocks about how Australia is better than the UK in every way!

Not by me.
I prefer to talk about tits.

I thought you were a leg man?

I agree. An unused resource which could have been used years ago.
Of course, now Boris has heard about it, and Carrie seems to be a great proponent of heat pumps(!), I imagine we might hear more of it.