It sure got both of us through just fine as did sharing my dexamethosone for COPD. I reckon that was the polisher that cleared it upđ
Personally Iâm all for live and let live
OK you decided not to be vaccinated because in your words, âthere is very little chance that I will catch itâ and that was your choice fair enough, so why go on a rage about people who chose to have the vaccine, wasnât that their free choice to make? So why exactly was your choice more important than their choice, and why do anti vaxxers so vehemently despise people that chose differently and were vaccinated?
As for tattoos, if you think the vaccinated should be tattooed and I was of the same mentality, then I would probably advocate the same for all anti vaxxers (including, incidentally, two of our sons) who ought to be tattooed with âselfish and cowardly anti vaxxerâ so that we can give them a wide berth, for they are the problem now according to the level of hospital admissions, not the vaccinated.
Iâm all for live and let live thatâs why Iâve been vaccinated
Grrr Iâve not got the hang of this reply malarkey yet
RippleâŠwhen you highlight the personâs words you want to quote, it comes up automatically in a reply box (just in case you were trying to reply as well as quote) If you just want to reply without quoting anyone, just click on reply. Hope this helps a bit!
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Actually, Foxy, l am quite sad that you could start a thread such as this.
When you announced in a previous thread that you and your wife had Covid and you were both very ill⊠I honestly thought some would utter the words to the effect of, âlt serves you right for not having the vaccineââŠbut there were no smug, or gloating remarks.
In fact, members poured out words of sympathy and good wishes. Every day, there were posts asking how you were and to post because we hadnât heard from you.
Thank God, you recovered and came back to Thank everyone for their kind words and wishes.
Then, l couldnât believe my eyes when l saw this thread. To me, itâs like a slap in the face and saying that we are all thick, or stupid to have been taken in and made the decision to have the vaccine.
How many million have taken the vaccinations? How many havenât? I would say those that didnât are in the minority⊠so what does that tell you?
I think itâs brilliant that you also know better than scientists too! Oh, l forgot they are in on the plan too!! 
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Thanks Pixie 
OGF I am glad you and Mrs Fox got over Covid and I am also glad that people are getting vaccinated. My double vaccinated SiL has just had Covid with mild symptoms. But people I have spoken to who contracted it before the vaccine relayed a very different experience of being run over with steamroller. Of older people I know who had it pre vaccine, well they have not quite recovered yet even a year later. Not long covid but just not the person they were in terms of agility and fitness. They have aged greatly, weight of the world on their shoulders.
As you may remember I had a very bad experience with the first vaccine. Probably the worst side effects of anyone I know, but I am still glad I had both doses. Should I carry a sign? I guess wearing a mask sums up how I feel about this disease.
Perhaps it would also be appropriate that anyone who doesnât wear a mask (or visor if they are exempt from masks) should be sprinkled with some ink like those insulating road huggers. We should all be protecting each other from infection by masking or visoring up.
We take the same precautions now weâve had the jabs as before.Nothing has changed as far as we are concerned.
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I seem to have mislaid the post where I said that BarryâŠ
Settle down @Artangel âŠItâs not like anyone is getting angry or aggressive except perhaps a couple of disgruntled vaxxed people. I had expected better from you ArtyâŠWhy do you and another poster bring up my recent brush with Covid? Does it matter whether I was jabbed or not? Do you wish you had not posted your best wishes now?
You donât have to be tattooed with a spiderâs web or a twisting snake appearing from your topâŠPerhaps everyone who has been vaccinated could just wear a yellow dangly earing in the shape of a star like LongDriver has suggestedâŠ
Iâm sorry for the people who are still suffering the results of Covid @AnnieS , and the vaccines seem to be having a good effect of preventing further complications, however, at the moment I consider the vaccines to be a short term fix and I believe the future interference of the immune systems and illnesses caused by the vaccines are as yet not fully understood.
I hope Iâm wrong when I say that the cure might be worse than the disease.
As I have said many times Bob, you made your choice & I donât recall anybody trying to make you have the vaccine.
Most of us did choose to have the vaccine, so even if you were right, what satisfaction do you get from telling them they may suffer in the future if they continue to have the vaccines?
If you were knowledgeable in this field then some may give thought to your opinions, but as you are not & donât spend much time socializing ( your words not mine) I can only assume that you read things on the internet & try to frighten people!
You must take the action that you choose to, but please allow the rest of us to do the same.
Many years ago I studied vaccines and how they work. They make your body produce antibodies to kill the disease & live vaccines work. Sadly this pandemic was so dangerous that they couldnât use live vaccine ,as they didnât have the time to test it for years. The new vaccines are created by using methods to make less serious cells appear similar to Covid cells so our immune systems will attack them!
If you donât want the jabs that is fine, but please stop trying to frighten others who do want them. Arenât you doing what you accuse doctors of doing, when they have considerably more practical knowledge than you ⊠and it doesnât come from the internet âŠwhere you can find opposing reports on everything, but with no proof!
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Of course you are wrong .
Lots of people have died of covid . I personally know of three and they died badly and they werenât any different from you age wise or fitness wise just had itâs worse and they didnât have the benefit of our medical service .
You and Mrs Fox were lucky and Iâm glad for you but you were lucky best not to tempt providence again and you can get covid again ,
âA recent study](Past Covid-19 infection may provide 'months of immunity' - BBC News) led by Public Health England (PHE) shows most people who have had the virus are protected from catching it again for at least five months (the duration of the analysis so far).
Some are reinfected, however, and, even if asymptomatic, can then harbour high levels of the virus in their noses and mouths, which can be passed on to others.
PHE will continue to monitor the people in this study, who are all healthcare workers, to see how long immunity lasts.
Other clues may come from studies involving other coronaviruses.
Four produce the symptoms of the common cold and immunity is short-lived. Studies showed some patients could be re-infected within a year.â
Research at Kingâs College London also suggested levels of antibodies that kill coronavirus waned over the three month study.
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I consider them a lifesaver! Aside from preventing actual death, my definition of life saved includes the quality of life post-covid unvaccinated vs vaccinated = vastly improved post-vaccine.
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But the vaccines havenât been thoroughly tested yet Annie, letâs see if the death rates from covid remain low through the winter. Death rates of most viruses reduce through the summer and autumn months. And I can only speak for Mrs Fox and myself when I say âWe had covid and survived, and with no lasting after effectsâ Apart from having to have a pacemaker and defibrillator fitted next week⊠
You know I tend to agree with you Foxy, in general, but, generalizations donât apply with a new disease. There must be as much future risk from the vaccine as from the the after effects of the virus, then there is the category like the missus, had virus April 2020, double jabbed February 2021, are we awaiting a double whammy? I would not advise anyone to do anything in this situation except follow their instinct, forget the science, that changes to suit the situation. Imo`
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We can all speculate that it is unrelated. I hope the procedure goes well.
Youâre right we donât know everything about the long term effects of the vaccines, but that was the same with so many medical advances. Sometimes we as a species are forced to take a chance into the unknown in order to avert disaster. If we didnât take any chances against disaster we wouldnât be the most successful species on the planet. People have their individual philosophies but we move forward as a group.
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I wouldnât call Covid a âDisasterâ @AnnieS itâs just another disease in a long line of illnesses and diseases that polishes off the old and those with a compromised immune system.
Itâs also had more publicity than most of the others.
We certainly move as a group Annie but I wouldnât say itâs necessarily forward. My own personal health is my main priority, and also the health of my loved ones, Iâm no good to them dead, even if people think itâs for a good cause. You only get one life, and itâs not a rehearsal for the next! With all the medical and technological advancements we will be the administrators of our own demise, unless someone has a better ideaâŠAnd I think they just might!
Sorry, havenât been following this thread for a week. Do those who donât want the vaccine have to carry around proof that theyâve not had the jab?
No and they shouldnât need to either.
Itâs only the vaccine supremacists that want it.
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