thanks May.
DisasterâI ran out of cottage cheeseâthats becuase i made a vegetable quiche that used half a large tub !!
so I had a small orangeâryvitas and hoummoussâquite nice-but missed my cottage cheeseâbut off to Sainburys soon, to stock up.
BreakfastâŠscramâ eggs wholemeal roll,
LunchâŠtuna & salad,
Dinner Haddock & SW chips.
I hope You stocked up on cottage cheese Mariana
B/fastâŠporridge,
LunchâŠhome made chicken & leek soup with lots of garlic (got a bit of a cold)
DinnerâŠchicken breast & saladâŠmixed fruit salad/yogurt.
Thanks Mayâyes I didâ2 large tubsâback to my normal breakfast. !
Not sure what I am having today, as I am at church and we are having a light lunch.
Might have home made tomato soup tonight with pasta and veg.
Iâve just joined the chat, want to say that this idea is great!
HI Parvaty,nice to see You,and welcome to the OFFâŠlook forward to Your chat on here and elsewhere
Woohoo! Jumped on the scale this morning. Another 2 pounds gone. Iâve lost a total of 6 pounds since I started this on April 25th.
Well done Linda,fabââŠEveryones weight seems to be moving in the right direction,downwardsâŠcongratâs all round,
Thanks
Today:
Breakfast: Porridge
Dinner: Fry-Up
Supper: Soup & Bread
thats brilliant Linda-really well done.
I ended up with tuna salad for my liught lunch out yesterday , followed by peach and berriesânot bad at al, plus chicken in the evening.
busy day again, makes it difficult
but my usual breakfastâin think at lunch, some chicken asnd pasta, and as i am going to a firnds later to watch the football, Im just ytaking some crispbreads and hoummouss-I know that all that he will have is crisps and pies and stuff --not for me. !!
I really donât understand SusieJaegerâs approach here. Itâs all sugary cereals and curries. Special K, Bran Flakes both have sugar. Imagine having your bowl of Bran Flakes and sprinkling a teaspoon of sugar over it every morning. Thatâs what you are doing. I would ditch those cereals in all honesty. Replace with porridge or a homemade muesli mix.
How many of the curries are your own home-made? Youâve mentioned Indian Take-aways hence the question. UK âIndianâ food has a lot of fat and grease and of course rice is very starchy.
Iâm guessing you are an ex-smoker yes?
I see Youâre still being Your sweet Self Realist âŠWho made You OFFs diet Guru?
Iâd like to make another point in this thread which is more about psychology and how the body works than about calories.
It is true that at a very clinical level, Calories In vs Calories Out determines how fat you get, but as a statement, itâs not that helpful.
The key to controlling weight and/or losing it, imo, is understanding what triggers you to put excess Calories In. If you can step back, and understand what those triggers are, then you can take steps to remove the triggers altogether.
Many overweight people give themselves a huge guilt trip because they know they are eating too much or eating bad things but seem helpless to stop doing it. So they pile into slimming clubs and end up paying good money just to hear someone else rabbiting on about food mechanics and to psychologically put themselves in a position where they âhaveâ to try to eat properly because of the weekly weigh-ins.
As an outsider I find that whole ethos quite sad really. There is a sense of desperation about it. When my wife or M-I-L have gone to these clubs they have said âwe wonât keep to the diet if we donât goâ. That just tells me there is something wrong with the diet and the approach.
My view is that people are subjecting themselves to triggers and to foodstuffs which mess with your bodyâs natural processes. Those foodstuffs make you feel hungry and crave foods and snacks when in fact you body isnât the least bit hungry and has no need of that extra energy.
That leads to people eating more than the body needs and so the energy is stored as fat.
There are numerous triggers and people need to identify themselves what they are. Top of that list though is of course sugar. It gives you a quick false energy boost and then leaves you with a downer and an artificial craving. Thatâs when people reach for snacks.
Same for fizzy drinks laden with sugar or sweetener. A boost which screws with your body and brain and then the inevitable crash leaving you feeling hungry when you are not.
If we eliminate these kind of bad products from our diet then we eliminate the false hunger pangs.
Many years ago the Atkins Diet was all the rave and people lost significant amounts of weight following it. The scientists and nutrition community âpoo pooâdâ it for ages on the basis that there was just nothing scientific in that diet that could possibly result in weight loss. Yet the diet appeared to work !
It transpired later on that the foods the diet involved left you feeling well sated, i.e. not in the least hungry and so in the end, people were just eating less food (regardless of the type) and so were losing weight.
This is kind of the reverse of the hunger triggers I mentioned above. Eating less food, generally for most people, doesnât work because you just feel hungry and eventually start snacking or re-balancing the intake.
The true way to lose weight, healthily and permanently, imo, is to eat healthy foods and to only eat what the body needs for its general function. Your body will tell you when it wants food or water, itâs a natural process.
To hear it though, we have to eliminate the bad foods that mess with those bodily processes and make you feel hungry when you are not.
Eating sugary cereals in the morning is not, imo, a good idea. You will get hungry before lunchtime and thus be tempted for some snack to fill the time. Porridge is a fantastic breakfast. It is totally nutritious and leave you well satisfied for many hours.
Similarly, âgoodâ bread can do the same thing. If you resolve to make your own bread (which really is easy), you can make loaves with just flour, water, yeast and a little salt and you can ensure they have a high content of wheat and rye and other beneficial and nutritious grains. That kind of bread equally leaves you feeling well satisfied. A couple of slices can be a meal in itself ! Supermarket bread wonât do that, so avoid it.
In the end, just kicking sugar well and truly into touch is going to have a dramatic effect on your life for all sorts of reasons. Itâs not easy though. Itâs an insipid villain that is lurking in almost every food even ones which purport to be healthy and good for a diet. You have to be ever vigilant and expect to find it trying to hide. Read every label very carefully and remember that 4g of sugar is 1 full teaspoon.
Bottom line is to simply kick out the triggers, and let your body tell you when it needs food. Never eat according to a schedule, never just say âbreakfast, lunch, dinnerâ. Thatâs just social conditioning that we have been programmed with from birth. I typically eat about 4-5 times each day at 9am, 11.30am, 3pm, 6pm and sometimes 9pm.
I never just eat because it is âeating timeâ, I just eat when my body tells me it wants something. I avoid sugar, I never drink fizzy drinks and I donât drink fruit juices (which are pure sugar with no fibre). I am by no means âfatâ but I would like to lose a little weight. Even so, I do eat some "naughty " things. For example I will happily eat a muffin or slice of cake with a latte when I am out and about.
Overall though I have no triggers which are giving me a false high and subsequent crash making me snack when my body doesnât need it.
Well if Your Wife and MIL have had to pay to go to slimming clubsâŠThey obviously havenât listened to a word You drone on and on about âŠand I canât blame Them
Well, we say âbreakfast, lunch and dinnerâ to specify which type of meal we were having, indicating the particular time of day. It doesnât necessarily mean weâre eating on a schedule. I too eat only when Iâm hungry. Many days I skip breakfast because I normally donât get hungry until around 11:00am. Iâm not going to eat breakfast just to eat it. And my âdinnertimeâ, most days, isnât until later in the evening.
For your information Realist, I do not have sugar on anything, the only cereal I might have is Bran flakes but I do eat a lot of Porridge without milk or sugar. As for take-aways which is not very often I only have Chicken Tikka not a curry and all my curries are homemade without any fat or sugar. And No iâm not a smoker never have been. Also I do not drink only water or tea.
I think Realist meant that by eating those cereals, itâs like sprinkling sugar on them, even when youâre not.
The original Special K, however, only has 4 grams of sugar per serving. That may seem like a lot to some people, especially people avoiding added sugars altogether, but some of those cereals out there have as much as 24 grams or more.
Iâll tell ya where to be careful with added sugars and high fructose corn syrup and thatâs bread. Some breads are worse than most cereals.
Yes I know what he meant Linda.
Today I had.
Breakfast: Porridge made with water.
Dinner: Homemade Vegetable Curry and bit of rice.
Supper: ? Donât know yet.