Mrs Fox and me have tested positive for covid

[Pesta]

Summer is your daughter feeling any better now? I do hope so.

[spitfire]

This is a bit like the God debate.

[OldGreyFox]

@Barry

I have rarely read such abject bullshine!

Personally I have absolutely no time for anti-vaxers, I think them both cowardly and incredibly selfish.

Selfish because it’s a proven fact that around 90% of current new infections are amongst those that haven’t been vaccinated, and which is still therefore eating up virtually every resource that the NHS has, to the detriment and disadvantage of every other group of people with serious life threatening illnesses such as heart disease or cancer.

And cowardly because yes, no-one knows the long term effects of any new vaccine, but to leave it completely to others to find out, to me smacks of abject cowardice.

We are supposed to all be in this together, but because of your ilk that obviously isn’t the case.

Anyway, good luck with your health and don’t worry about the rest of us… oh, hang on a minute though, I just remembered that you don’t …

Thanks for your comments Barry very enlightening, I will take them onboard…

[OldGreyFox]

@swimfeeders

Hi

An issue with my keyboard.

To continue, no vaccination you pay for NHS Treatment and for those you have been in contact with.

@scot37

I took the vaccinations because I thought it was the right thing to do in a national emergency. According to reports the highest percentage of covid-19 hospitalisations are from the unvaccinated.

Edited to add I did it for my own health as well. I will be 84 shortly but not ready to call it a day just yet.

Of course they are scot, what did you expect the media to say…Mrs Fox and me didn’t go to hospital…

@AnnieS

Everyone should be free to choose whether they have the vaccine or not.

But both sides should not try to convert each other & harshly judge those who do not feel comfortable having it or disrupt vaccine programmes just because they disagree with the vaccine.

Absolutely @AnnieS …Your health is your responsibility!

@Pesta

Glad you’re back on the up Foxy. Still take care though eh?

Thank God for that …
Doing great thanks Pesta…(Hugs)…xxx

[Barry]

@OldGreyFox

Thanks for your comments Barry very enlightening, I will take them onboard…

Pleased to be of help…

[OldGreyFox]

@spitfire

I think you will agree foxy, its all unknown, the long term effect of a Covid Jab, or, the long term effect of the Covid Infection (Long Covid), its a land of confusion at the moment, time will tell.
Glad you are on the mend.

Thanks Spitty, and I do agree with you, I think Covid will be the long game, and if the taking the vaccine was the right thing to do it will all come out in the wash. I can only speak for myself when I say that I always thought I could beat the virus without the need for the vaccine, so I hope the jab I never had, will save the life of someone more vulnerable…
I’ve been keeping up with your posts by the way, but not contributing as much…

[DianneWoollie]

If you have an immune disease, as much as you wish you cant beat it unless the body changes its destructive nature.
I had to consider whether to take the vaccine as I already make anti bodies that alter and cause disruptions to me in various forms.
With the immune system being far more complicated than really known…along with the Brain of course.
My Son has had covid after affects since he contracted it before last Xmas, although well out of the woods months ago, he is not the same person. He is/will be again one day… a bus driver but denied the vaccine at the time.
I had to look through what was first best for me and Husband then also consider the bigger picture.
At the end of my ‘research’ there was an overall positive to have it…
So I did in July.

[swimfeeders]

Hi
I feel as passionately about vaccinations as OGF does, but I am at the entirely different end of the discussion.

I respect Bob’s right to treat his body as he see’s fit.

He is committed to his belief that vaccination is wrong.
for him.

My view is based on personal experience.

I caught Covid in hospital, spent days in an isolation pod before being transferred to a Covid Ward.

The isolation pod was bad and took up a lot of staff time to manage.

It was also very expensive as infection control included destroying the covering and a new one provided for the next occupant.

I was then moved to a Covid ward, 4 of us in a bay.

The other 3 died, which was not good.

There was a huge shortage of nurses, some very ill with Covid and we had Army Nurses in.

The working conditions were horrible, 13 hour shifts, dressed in full gear and sweating like pigs.

It was not just the nurses and doctors, it is cleaners, porters, blood takers, xray staff etc.

Intensive care was full up and non Covid Patients died because of that.

That is the basis of my views.

[scot37]

@OldGreyFox

Of course they are scot, what did you expect the media to say…Mrs Fox and me didn’t go to hospital…

Some people OGF have covid-19 and not realise it. Some people have mild symptoms, some like you more severe. You were lucky not to have had the full blown virus.
Good that you are making a good recovery.

[OldGreyFox]

@DianneWoollie

If you have an immune disease, as much as you wish you cant beat it unless the body changes its destructive nature.
I had to consider whether to take the vaccine as I already make anti bodies that alter and cause disruptions to me in various forms.
With the immune system being far more complicated than really known…along with the Brain of course.
My Son has had covid after affects since he contracted it before last Xmas, although well out of the woods months ago, he is not the same person. He is/will be again one day… a bus driver but denied the vaccine at the time.
I had to look through what was first best for me and Husband then also consider the bigger picture.
At the end of my ‘research’ there was an overall positive to have it…
So I did in July.

I have nothing against the vaccine or anyone who decides to have it Dianne, I just didn’t think it was right for me, and as it happens, I was right in my decision. I do consider natural immunity (where possible) to be far more efficient than any vaccine in this case, but we are each different and decisions must be made based on your circumstances. I do hope your son recovers fully in the future…

[OldGreyFox]

@swimfeeders

Hi
I feel as passionately about vaccinations as OGF does, but I am at the entirely different end of the discussion.

I respect Bob’s right to treat his body as he see’s fit.

He is committed to his belief that vaccination is wrong.
for him.

My view is based on personal experience.

I caught Covid in hospital, spent days in an isolation pod before being transferred to a Covid Ward.

The isolation pod was bad and took up a lot of staff time to manage.

It was also very expensive as infection control included destroying the covering and a new one provided for the next occupant.

I was then moved to a Covid ward, 4 of us in a bay.

The other 3 died, which was not good.

There was a huge shortage of nurses, some very ill with Covid and we had Army Nurses in.

The working conditions were horrible, 13 hour shifts, dressed in full gear and sweating like pigs.

It was not just the nurses and doctors, it is cleaners, porters, blood takers, xray staff etc.

Intensive care was full up and non Covid Patients died because of that.

That is the basis of my views.

I had no idea that you had such a tough time Swim, but I’m glad you got through it…

[OldGreyFox]

@scot37

Some people OGF have covid-19 and not realise it. Some people have mild symptoms, some like you more severe. You were lucky not to have had the full blown virus.
Good that you are making a good recovery.

Thanks scot At the time, it certainly felt like the full blown virus…

[summer]

Yes Pesta thanks for asking Kate seems to have turned a corner…she is still not 100% but getting there

[OldGreyFox]

@summer

Yes Pesta thanks for asking Kate seems to have turned a corner…she is still not 100% but getting there

Good to hear Summer…

[Pesta]

I’m so pleased to hear she’s turned the corner summer. Hopefully she will be back to full health before too long.

[gumbud]

Hi OGF good to see you still around - any walking lately and attached threads??

[Dextrous]

Hey gumbud, look around for another thread on here from Foxy. He’s just had a pacemaker fitted yesterday.

[gumbud]

yes I did read about that somewhere here - poor bugger - is that affecting his walking?

[butterscotch]

@gumbud

yes I did read about that somewhere here - poor bugger - is that affecting his walking?

You can read about his operation here. Just click on the orange title and you can ask him how’s he’s doing there.

Foxys Forthcoming Hospital Visit

A massive thank you to everyone. It was such a long day and I didn’t get home until late, but if you’ve got a few minutes to spare, put t’ kettle on, get out your favourite dunking biscuits and I’ll tell you what happened… I can’t function properly without breakfast, so yesterday morning I was up and out of bed at 4:30 am. My daughter drove me and Mrs Fox to the hospital at six, it’s just over an hour to the Northern General Hospital but the traffic was light and she made it fo…

[gumbud]

has he got any more forth or firth coming hospital visits they all sound fascinating I am ghost writing a book for him ??