The official reason direct from Farage himself:
“Now’s the moment for me to say I’ve knocked on my last door. I’m going to step down as the leader of Reform UK. I’ll have no executive position at all. I’m quite happy to have an honorary one, but party politics, campaigning, being involved in elections, that is now over for me because I’ve achieved the one thing I set out to do: to achieve the independence of the UK.”
He didn’t leave because of the potential of the reform party though did he.
Reforms manifesto is more to do with getting rid of the House of Lords and stopping China buying up UK schools etc. They are a new party and haven’t campaigned yet in a election.
As if he’s going to publicly state the bleedin’ obvious, but his words as I quoted them very clearly suggest exactly what I have said.
And yet even before this resignation there are those in here who insisted that Reform would soon reign supreme since to them Brexit was allegedly some sort of BRINO and Farage was going to ride to their rescue like a knight on a charger and save their day!
That dream didn’t last long.
Why?
Simple: because Nigel knows there is no hope of that possibility.
That’s why he’s resorting to doing paid-for Cameo videos for his fans at £63-75 a pop instead, there’s more money in that for him nowadays.
Their campaigning isn’t going to be anything like as effective as it would have been with Nigel at the helm though, is it?
He was/is a darned good cmapiagner that gets results.
Theres a cross-party group of MP’s to do pretty much the things you’re suggesting so there’s no need for a political party (as by his actions Farage realises only too well), because that’s what this group who are growing in size and in influence are after.
Plus the so-called Common Sense Group of Tory MP’s are said to be also growing in strength with a large number of MP’s and some Lords in their cohort, with the aim of doing what their name suggests and injecting some of that characteristic into proceedings as well as becoming a successor to the ERG group.
But none of this has much to do with being misled over Brexit, whereas Farage’s relinquishing any opportunity to take advantage if people thought they had indeed been misled does.
It confirms what I have been suggesting for some time, namely that whilst not perfect Brexit has indeed been executed as far as is reasonably possible.
What Farage does is his business. He has said why he is leaving politics and now you seem to think he is wrong as well and there is some weird underlying conspiracy theory behind it and its because somehow he agrees with you.
How absurd is that ? Do you really think your empowered to talk on behalf of Nigel Farage now ?
Tice just launched his tax agenda… nothing to do with Brexit anymore, I got the email earlier.
Your making things up again
Here’s some more whinging and whining to cheer you up
Redwood conveniently ignores the principal reason for the decline of the U.K. fishing fleet was the 3rd cod war
That was a very interesting link you posted Bachory, but whilst the
cod wars may have STARTED the decline of British fishing,
unfortunately for UK, immediately after the cod wars, we joined
the EU, and in the process of joining we agreed to join the CFP !!
Whilst at the beginning it was ok, over time the EU reduced UK
quotas and applied other restriction as well to further aggravate
the situation!
This was done slowly , almost by stealth, and at the same time as
increasing EU vessels quotas and extending their territory etc?
Which brings us to the present situation of flags of convenience/
swapped & sold quotas/ non fishermen obtaining quotas in order
to sell for profit etc,etc !!
The only way to sort this mess out is for us to assert our legal rights
and stop all fishing in our waters while we set up a our own system
of fishing regulations and start controlling the issueing of licences
ourselves ??
Donkeyman!
I completely agree.
The root cause of our misfortunes and the partial destruction of our once-proud country was the traitor Heath. (I find it embarrassing that he was an organist!)
More recently, we have had Coward Cameron and Treason May both of whom have worked for the benefit of a foreign power.
All three, incidentally, Conservatives!
Now we have Boris. Who knows? Will he restore what we once had over 40 years ago?
So far, it appears not. But let’s be generous and give him a little longer to sort himself out. Sooner or later, he’s going to have to decide on whose side he is really on.
We shall see.
The truth hit home, obviously.
Don’t attribute to me things that I have not said and I won’t call you what doing that makes you which is a liar; is that fair?
I did not say that I think Farage was wrong, read it again.
I didn’t say that I was talking on Nigel’s behalf either but don’t let a little thing like honesty stop you.
This whole forum is based upon people voicing their opinions and I can do that just the same as you do but there’s no need to blatantly twist what is said and turn them into lies just to try and further your own delusional agenda.
Instead of whinging and thinking up more malicious comments after finding that you’re left up the creek without a paddle because the party you hoped would win seats stands about as much chance of doing so as The Monster Raving Loony Party does, you might try looking at the bigger picture by pulling your eyes and thoughts away from fish and a bloke called Nigel.
[SIZE=“4”]“Britain is set for a brighter economic future and the EU can’t bear it”
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"A malignant seed of jealousy towards the United Kingdom is growing in continental Europe and it isn’t hard to understand why.
Britain is on course to outperform the EU in the immediate post-Brexit period and the contrast in our fortunes is going to become more and more obvious in the second half of this year.
Boris Johnson may be getting berated for refusing to increase the pace of his tortoise-like trudge out of lockdown, but compared to the EU club that the UK has left behind we are strapped to rocket boosters and sporting go-faster stripes.
Don’t just take my word for it, it is also the verdict of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which has just upgraded our growth forecast for this year by almost a full percentage point. Though the OECD expects all developed economies to benefit from a vaccine effect, its latest bulletin this week will come as a dagger to the heart of Brussels."
“Anyone seeking an explanation for all the sleights and hostility emanating towards Britain from Brussels, Berlin and Paris in recent weeks need look no further. The European Commission and the governments of Germany and France will all be painfully aware of where things are headed: us getting back to normal and benefiting from freeing-up a “coiled spring” economy, while they are stuck on the nursery slopes of mass vaccination and still implementing prosperity-destroying Covid-control measures.”
Yes, that pretty much sums it up.
As said in other places in these forums (and even though you strangely seem to hate people agreeing with my opinions) it looks increasingly like the EU’s actions are going to at the very least severely curtail their ambitions and at worst cause significant damage which could threaten the entire union.
Do you feel sorry for them?
I doubt that many people do.
Yes it’s subscription-only but there is a free trial period for anybody so inclined, otherwise the snippets posted above give the general idea.
No.
As already mentioned, the EU’s CFP exacerbated the decline.
I might not entirely agree with your surmise regarding Boris and Brexit but that aside you are absolutely correct; time will tell.
Surely it cannot trundle on and on indefinitely?
Either the EU accepts the pushbacks Frost & co. are making and they ratify the agreement or they don’t, but I cannot realistically see how any major Brexit-related difficulties could carry on beyond that point.
Minor ones certainly and probably for years, but major disagreements?
Only you thinks this is true ^^^ So far you know better than Ben Habib, Richard Tice, Nigel Farage, the Express, FFL, 12000 fishermen and hundreds of thousands of people in the fishing and related industry.
Your opinion is these people are stupid and don’t knownknow what they were voting for and they should stop whinging and whining.
Priceless, Zaphod, just when I thought you couldn’t get more deluded, there you go, shouting at the rain as the only person in the country who voted for a 75% Brexit.
To answer your question Zaphod re ’ it cannot trundle on indefinitely’
Yes, it can, unless we start ASSERTING our sovereignty instead of
reacting to EU dictates?? We have the right, international law is on our
side over this matter !! Why must we wait for 5•5 yrs before we can
act on this ??
And at the end of 5•5 yrs there is no definite plan for us to get what
is ours as of right either, just another negotiation ??
Sovereignty HAS to be asserted, nobody will make a present of it to
you !! As has become quite evident !!
Our main problem does not lie with the EU, But with the people
of UK that oppose Brexit who no doubt have their reasons for their
stance ??
Unfortunately for them, they were in the minority whenever the public
were allowed to vote !!
Whilst l think Lord Frost could possibly bring about the changes you speak of, he is a voice in the wilderness that is the Tory party and he
will soon be replaced or forced to resign just like all the other
brexit ministers that were appointed earlier ??
Donkeyman!
I agree. We are (supposedly) now an independent sovereign nation.
The unfortunate thing is that our government has, stupidly, agreed a deal with the EU which masquerades as a trade deal. The EU, of course, see it as a means of controlling us, just as they have become used to doing for 40 years.
Nevertheless, as has been mentioned on this forum many times, we still have the right to tear up the deal especially as the EU have decided to delay ratifying it. We should take this opportunity now before they realise that they could so easily make things more difficult for us.
As you say, we have the disadvantage that many influential people - especially in the Civil Service, the House of Lords and even in the Conservative government - would like to hand our country back to the EU in one way or another. This, disgustingly, is regardless of the fact that the majority of voters insisted that they wanted us to leave that corrupt organisation.
What does this say to the world that a substantial number of people in positions of authority are effectively outweighing the wishes of the majority of ordinary British people?
And we claim to be living in a democracy.
Bless your little cotton socks with your puerile determination to persuade others that nobody else has the same views as me even when they’re here in this very thread!
In the link in your quote too, in fact.
You are deliberately completely misrepresenting what I say and what my opinions are when anybody can see for themselves right here.
Keep up the infantile insults too when the sensible amongst us grew out of such playground tactics before entering senior school and you’re stuck there; I’m only surprised that you didn’t add a “Yah boo!” for good measure.
That would fit admirably with your abilities to debate.
You really do not “get” that opinion is just that, do you?
Or that nobody but you cares?
You cannot even substantiate your frankly crazy claims; where does “Ben Habib, Richard Tice, Nigel Farage, the Express, FFL, 12000 fishermen and hundreds of thousands of people in the fishing and related industry” talk about either The Reform Party or the UK doing well post-Brexit which is what my post that you include is talking about?
They don’t.
But you somehow think that it’s related to my post which you quote?
If that is the case then you’re in need of the sort of help which this forum can never give you.
Well watch out fella because there’s more postivity about Brexit that you won’t believe to come, like this from Douglas Ross who admits that he was a “reluctant remainer” at that!
[B]“This generation are already seeing the benefit of Brexit.
“The 50,000 people employed directly or indirectly in the Scottish whisky industry are celebrating today because they can see these tariffs being suspended, and young people here in Scotland and right across the UK are seeing the benefits of our vaccination programme, which isn’t being replicated in Europe, and that will see our freedoms being returned far quicker.
"We are already seeing the benefits of being an independent country outside the EU.”[/B]
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/douglas-ross-insists-younger-generation-already-seeing-benefits-of-brexit-3155772
But he, I and the large proportion and increasing of the British public who say Boris & the government will get their vote are wrong and a faceless keyboard warrior with his head up a fishy bottom is right in the world according to Bread because we aren’t spluttering over a few fish that we don’t eat and can’t sell?
There’s your delusion.
Bullpoop.
I thought some of the other guff in here was delusional but that’s more fictional than Isaac Asimov’s best works.
What about the EU ratifying the deal?
Why ignore that?
That isn’t “5.5 years away” is it?
If they sign they agree we can challenge them and if they don’t the deal is torn up anyway.
You carry on ignoring that this must come first if you want but you’re making yourselves look worse than daft.
Proof that the British people don’t want the EU.
“The poll also found sight dip in enthusiasm for the EU in the other countries it polled: France, Germany, Denmark, and Sweden, although all countries still remained heavily in favour of remaining a member.”
Wait until they see the real consequences of the EU’s vaccination farce.
:shock:
I usually scroll on past, for obvious reasons, but I thought just for once I’d go to the trouble of copying and pasting just a few of the words I’ve just seen.
peurile (sic) determination
Keep up the infantile insults
your frankly crazy claims
a faceless keyboard warrior with his head up a fishy bottom
some of the other guff in here was delusional
making yourselves look worse than daft
I’m not surprised that most people don’t participate.
Perhaps he has Tourette’s.
Nobody cares ?
you don’t care - there are millions that do though. If you watched Politics Today on TV today there was a good debate about fishing. Funny because nobody said fishermen were stupid or that they didn’t know what they voted for.
I guess you wont be educated because you can’t find this sort of thing on Wikipedia which is your source of truth… and the Daily Telegraph
Keep up the insults, they compliment your faulty opinions.
You also seem to think I’m some sort of Brexit doom mongered - I’m not, I was campaigning to leave the EU back in 2012, I’ve been a member of the Conservative party for as long as I can remember but campaigned for the Brexit Party in the lead up to the General Election. So your wrong there as well, and just because your in a minority of one when it comes to fisheries doesn’t make you right. Your just a minority of one who nobody believes.
You just can’t make some people understand thats all JBR.
I am becoming mightily fed up with people whinging and whining about what is and what is not happening in our efforts to disentangle ourselves from the EU’s clutches. In fact, if all the tautological posts were to be deleted from this and other threads, the threads themselves would be so much smaller.
“Britain is set for a brighter economic future and the EU can’t bear it”. Yes, of course it is and the EU is being a bullying prat. The only thing holding us back at the moment is the EU and it’s infantile antics.
IMHO, what many people were, and to a large extent still are, expecting was for Boris to hit the “GO” button on Jan 1st and all would be rosy. (I saw this sort of thing happen in South Africa when Mandela was elected President. When nothing happened as swiftly as the general populace wanted it to, that’s when all the knee-jerk reactions started and many of them are still living in townships just as they were beforehand). It ain’t gonna happen that fast chaps and chappesses, it’s going to take at least a couple of years to even begin to sort out even the major problems. (Now we’re going to have to contend with the USA getting involved with the border problems between the UK and RoI as reported widely this morning.)
While it would feel great if we could see Boris and Co kick the sh!t out of the EU once in a while, I do NOT believe for a single moment that such knee-jerk reactions would serve us well in the long-term.
