Misled Over Brexit ? Certainly Looks That way!

Exactly, Swimmy :023:

We are also a net importer of fish, that means, we can’t catch what we want to buy. Channel cod quotas are 7% for the UK and around 85% for the EU, instead we buy in our cod from the EU and Norway which is simply outrageous. It also means the price of fish is super expensive as we have to pay for fish we would otherwise land for free.

Herring quotas are around 90% for the Dutch … we should have the 90% and sell it to the them rather than the other way around.

Its a complete sell out by Johnson and Frost.

We could have stayed in the EU and had less fish and far less of a say… like the Irish.


“Ireland will have tens of thousands of tonnes of fish deducted from its quotas in the coming years and faces losing up to €40 million in European funding after an EU investigation into the State’s application of Common Fisheries Policy rules.”

I almost hate to point this out to you but it was in fact MP’s that voted in agreement for this.
Without them it would not be in place.
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Exactly. Why are the Conservatives handing over what is ours to the EU? One can hardly blame the EU if our own leaders invite them to take whatever they want.

I really don’t understand why the political party I have voted for throughout my life (except for UKIP on one occasion) are choosing to give away our natural resources - among other things.

Unless someone in the party wakes up, I shall not vote for them again. They are demonstrating that they prefer to support our enemies before their own people.

As I have said before, it will be the Reform UK party in 2024 and also in the local elections should they stand here.

I am so angry about this that, should Reform UK not stand here, I will vote Labour and damn the consequences! :shock:

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Indeed. Unless something is going on to which I am not party, I’d suggest that the Conservatives are committing political suicide!

Hi

Richard North is a highly qualified EHO and Expert Witness.

He is not a remainer, just pointing out the mess we are in because of our stupidity.

The EU have run all over us.

It disgusts me.

Meanwhile the Conservative party continues to increase their lead over Labour in polling which might explain Farage’s decision to quit as leader of Reform.
He knows that he stands about zero chance of even denting results as the British population comes to terms with a new era.
Worse news for the whingers in here is that Boris Johnson’s popularity is rising too whilst that of Sir Kneel continues a decline.
It seems that the great British public doesn’t agree with the detractors in this part of the forum.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/03/04/voting-intention-con-45-lab-32-3-4-mar

GDP in the last three months of 2020 declined by 0.7% across the Eurozone, worse than forecast.
Meanwhile the UK saw a growth of 1% in the same period.

I am allowed my opinion too Swimmy, and besides appearing to be very wrong you also seem to be very easily disgusted.
Hardly surprising if you ignore so much of the obvious, I suppose.
Like the EU’s increasing tendancy to complain loudly in the style of a young child throwing their dummy out of the pram.
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That rise in popularity is mostly down to the COVID vaccine roll out.

Your making things up again

Hi

Polite discussion and disagreement.

Very used to it, Bread and JBR will never agree with certain things with me.

It can also get quite heated at times.

We do however respect each other and all 3 of us can and do apologise when we get things wrong.

That is life on a Forum, you live and learn.

Nobody is right every time Zaphod.

Don’t be too sure about the first part of your post; these were like that with me until our opinions diverged and the fawning adulation quickly turned rancorous.

Re: bib though, absolutely true.

" [B]It’s about time Brussels treated Britain with respect

A Trade and Cooperation Agreement hardly works if EU members are willing to harm themselves to get one over on us [/B]"

"Inevitably, competitor countries like France and Germany will seek an economic advantage now the UK is outside the bloc: that would be nothing new. But trade and cooperation deals assume that mutual interests will prevail and it is unsettling to find EU countries prepared to harm themselves in order to make a point about Brexit.

The goodwill essential to the effective operation of the Northern Ireland Protocol and the smooth functioning of cross-Channel trade is nonexistent – to the detriment not of the politicians but of the hard-pressed businesses caught in the crossfire both in the UK and the EU."

It’s not a long opinion piece but it puts into print how many people feel regarding the EU’s lack of respect towards the UK since you talk of respect Swimmy.
I know it’s subscription only but there’s a free trial period too, otherwise the quotes above give the gist.

How nice of you it is to attempt to determine not only how an entire population is thinking but why, and we will ignore for the moment that without leaving the EU this would not be possible shall we?
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No I am not.
The link I enclosed contains fact along with the word “might” you should note, but your post contains no fact whatsoever.
Again you’re resorting to your usual tactic of ad hominem insult rather than debating the topic.
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Fawning adulation ?

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It’s all there for everybody to see if they wish.
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Now is there any chance of staying on topic rather than more ad hominem attacks from you?

Hi

We chose this method of leaving.

The EU is not treating us with disrespect, it is treating the UK the same as every other Third Country.

This is what Boris and Frost signed up to.

Live with it.

No, the EU dictates the methods of both joining and leaving their club.

I will agree with how the EU is treating us.
As we have seen with Oz; the Swiss; Malaya and far more, the EU treats everybody not a member of their club as s-h-1-t.
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Last but not least (and for the second time in recent posts) it is the UK’s MP’s that signed up to this by a majority, not two people in isolation.
By a huge 521 votes to 73 majority in fact.

There wasn’t a lot of choice of what to sign up to at the times I recall.

Now you’re just squirming in the face of historical evidence, because you recall wrong then as usual.

Firstly because not a single MP was forced into agreement and secondly because time was given to allow scrutiny before the vote took place.
As you are I’m sure only too well aware, our MP’s could have voted against as some did but in greater numbers, or even voted to put back the vote.
They didn’t after some of the most vociferous sceptics studied the deal and pronounced it acceptable.