When I said I can’t answer, it was my lack of motivation that was preventing me, so those two responses are not as different as you seem to think.
There are legitimate reasons for wanting to be out of the EU, some of which any mainstream politician would be unwise to voice, and that is probably why a lot of them cited fictitious economic benefits instead. Our economy will suffer because of Brexit, that seems inevitable to me, let’s just be honest about it.
As for Boris, he didn’t have strong convictions about leaving the EU. He could have gone either way, right up to the moment when he declared which side he was on. You’ll no doubt remember that period leading up to it, when Cameron was on tenter hooks, waiting for Boris’s decision. All Boris was interested in was what was best for his career ambitions, and I think the outcome was far more successful for him than even he expected.
Ah! My apologies. An understandable misunderstanding…
perhaps.
That depends on whether you understand it.
I doubt that very much Cinders because individual member states are not allowed to negotiate with other parties. Any and all negotiations are by the EU Commission or someone appointed by them. Even the steering committees have no real power from what I saw in that series of documentaries featuring Ver Hofstad and Co.
I understand more than you think.
I wonder?
We were once under the complete control of the EU Commission, as are all the member states of the EU, yet we managed to withdraw from their control.
Is it not possible, then, for one or more of them to achieve what we did… or better?
In fact, I predict that exactly that will happen in time.
As I have said before, all empires eventually collapse and break apart.
Of course it’s eminently possible but I wouldn’t hold my breath. All a member state has to do is hold a referendum. If the result of that is for leaving the EU, then that country issues an Art 50 notice - just like we did.
I’ve already allowed for that.
In a word: no.
Already Brexit has resulted in our vaccination success which in turn is leading to us leaving Covid restrictions earlier than most major developed nations and this in turn is boosting the economy.
Already.
You have a chance of being correct, but if that proves to be true and it damages the future of this country enough for the electorate to notice it will cost both him and his party dearly in the next GE.
Yes, I understand.
Some member states would find it very difficult to extract themselves (eg, Greece) because they owe so much money.
Others wouldn’t want to (eg, Czechia) as they receive more money than they contribute.
Then there are those who are benefiting financially from membership even though they may pay in more than they receive in returns, like we did.
I suspect that the most likely ones to leave are those in the third category, but then you can never be sure.
The EU seems to have cocked up good and proper, vaccine wise, but Covid might be a distant memory in five years time.
I will benefit as much as you if you’re right, so I don’t want you to be wrong, but I can’t seem to muster up your optimism.
The EU’s admittance of such countries might be a point on which our views don’t differ too much. Just a hunch.
One particular comment on there really made me laugh:
“Don’t worry: little Tabitha Snowflake and her Guardianista mum will think this is absolutely sooper !!”
It’s not as if their actions don’t say that this sort of increasing federalism is what they have wanted all along though, so it’s no surprise.
A single currency, the plan to harmonize taxes, the insistence to be represented at global economic fora such as the G group meetings alonsgside individual member countries and many other things too strongly suggest that the desire is there even if it isn’t a formally-announced plan.
They also don’t have a choice. Look what happened with the EU constitution… then along came the Lisbon Treaty.
Don’t get me started on the Lisbon Treaty, Bread. :mad2:
Ok
Yeah, that had me ROFLMAO too