Lilibet Takes The Stage

There’s a snag to that though … it’s cheap imports of souvenir tat that deprive our own homegrown industries from making a living.
So that’s not a convincing argument.

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Sorry, but like Muddy we’re on different wavelengths. You probably don’t know why the Royals were at the G7 either. And I haven’t the energy to go into any further details in the same way as I haven’t the energy to go back over why Harry and Meghan left the UK and I don’t blame them. And there’s more than just the China on this site.

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Did I ever show you my Jubilee souvenir, I wonder if it was made in China!
Read it carefully…:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Lovely Jubbly

We certainly are … you seem to include any information (often unverified) in a bid to support your claim that the royals are somehow indispensable.

Your choice of Stoke-on-Trent potbanks to illustrate home grown artisans supplying souvenir was a poor choice … you’re in my necks of the woods now and I know for a fact that 99% of potteries, whether earthenware, cookware, flambe or china producers have all fallen foul of cheap imports and gone out of business. The local industry is dead. Same as the old steel works.

But even so … you’re just flogging yourself to prove that people ‘buy into’ the razzmatazz and pageantry of the Royals… meaning the pomp and ceremony, the Trooping of the Colour, Changing of the Guard etc and visiting the Tower of London …

What would the Queen be without all that?
Just an old lady in a headscarf who loves to walk corgi dogs.

No disrespect to Her Maj as she’s worked hard for her country and genuinely given her best but it’s not her or any one individual that keeps the Royal tourist industry going … not unlike Disneyland it’s the whole aura of privileged fantasy.

An aura I might add that Harry & Meghan with their antics and Andrew with his sleazy lifestyle are pretty much tainting and destroying. I can remember the Silver Jubilee back in 1977 and a great many more people had street parties and loved having a Royal family.

When Her Maj is long gone any tour guide at the Tower of London will still be able to tell a scary yarn of Queen’s getting beheaded and heads rolling bloodily over Tower Green.

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Sorry Morticia, but I don’t understand your first paragraph. And what exactly is it you want me to verify, because I’ve provided links to majority of things. And I’ve never claimed they are indispensable. I do think they are good for the country though. But not so sure about what will happen when Charles takes over. I for one will not have as much interest as I do now. Unless it involves William and Kate.

Don’t know what the point of your Stoke on Trent remark is either. You’re talking generally I’m talking about the Royal Family.

Royal Warrants also advertise the UK we have one here in little old Exmouth:

I accept that some people aren’t interested in the royal family and don’t hold that against them. But I happen to be a person who is interested and am grateful for the things they do for this country. But it’s all a matter of preference.

There’s probably something in life that you’re interested in/like, but I don’t, but I wouldn’t want to get rid of it just because I don’t like it or agree with it.

I can see you didn’t understand a lot of my post.
It’s not conclusive enough to post one link showing a UK firm designing Jubilee memorabilia to prove that it benefited the treasury because everyone ran out to buy a mug, even if it was from China.

What I’m saying is that a great deal of what you say is just your own opinion.
You think the Royal family bring in the money … which to a degree they do. They’re a marketable commodity but they have, over the last couple of decades been dubbed down to mere celebrity status, trading on the pomp and history of exciting past Kings ( bully boys to you and me).
If anyone could be accused of living in the past it is they.

I’m going back to the days of yore here when Kings fought wars and actually ruled the country, for better or worse, instead of just jetting about the world on holiday under the banner of ‘ambassadors’ as they go scuba diving.
Put it this way … I loved the Norman Kings, the Plantagenets, the Yorkists, the Lancastrians, The Tudors and Stuarts but by the time we reach Victoria our Royal family are an unexciting bunch of average people of average intelligence just simply born into a privileged life.

In that respect I have some sympathy for Harry in wanting to break free and have an ordinary life … except he’ll never do it as he’s been born and bred to expect privilege.
And so will Lilibet, despite his intentions as it’s not every one year old who has her picture plastered around the world

I don’t think she wanted him anywhere near the place.But it’s her job to keep visiting foreign dignitaries sweet.Potential trade,etc…

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Royal warrants?
I for one have never heard of Wilson’s paints .
In real life people buy their paint according to price and quality not because it has a royal warrant .
I live near Tetbury which has any amount of royal warrants owing to the fact that Prince Charles lives there .People still shop at Tescos .

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And I see that you don’t understand a lot of what I’ve posted either. That’s because we have different ‘opinions’ as your post is just your opinion too.

I think the royals bring a lot of joy to people and to me that’s a good thing. Ok they’re not everybody’s cup of tea, but I think they’re worth the £1.24 a year in tax I have to pay and if you begrudge having to pay that to bring a smile on people’s faces then I find that disappointing.

And I loved watching Captain Tom being knighted. And all the other awards people get throughout the year and no I don’t mean, politicians, stars, etc. I mean regular people who have done outstanding things for others, but sadly all the media ever focus on are the celebrities.

This is the sort of thing I love and it’s shown all over the world:

Oh gawd. That’s how I buy my paints too and don’t give a damn if something has a royal warrant or not. I wouldn’t dream of going out and buying clothes because that’s what the royals wear, but people do. And all of this sort of thing helps businesses.

Same here, Wendeey. I don’t give a damn what someone else buys or wears, royal or not.

Be funny if the royals bought the paint and clothes WE chose for a change though. Would WE get a warrant then? :smiley:

You never know, give it a go. The fashion these days are ripped jeans with paint all over them, so could kill two birds with one stone. These ones are on sale at the moment for a mere £365.48 was £854.93.

Or these for a mere £6,800:

I can sell you a pair of them for a fiver. Hang on I’ll just get me paint and scissors.

What the heck some people are so damn materialistic and shallow with too much money.

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In my day, you used to buy a pair of jeans and wear them out through constant use, so holes would appear at the knees and the arse part would thin. Who in their right mind would buy a pair of jeans “pre-holed” and pay through the nose for the privilege?

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Probably our views differ because a sleazy Prince Andrew doesn’t bring a smile to my face. But some people will overlook anything.

As to 1.24 a year in tax … it’s the principle of the thing not the amount.
They’re anachronistic. Their day is done.
By all means keep the palaces and towers for tourism but jettison the people who have been reduced from kings and queens who actually ruled the country to well off race horse owners who globe trot around the world and pay a bit of lip service to philanthropic causes and smile at cameras.

I’d much rather my 1.24 go to a donkey sanctuary. I like donkeys.

And Captain Tom? Ah, yes. His daughter is been investigated for irregular accounting and dubious expenses from the pot of money he raised.

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Lovely to see some proper debate back on here.

As far as Captain Tom is concerned I am currently in a Ward looking down o a Captain Tom garden which I watched being built on a previous hospital stay.

Very expensive, mostly hard landscaping and built by a main contractor.

Jobs for the boys.

As I’ve said your views differ to mine and that’s fine, what a boring old world it would be if we all agreed on everything. I happen to like the royal family and all they stand for and am proud to have them for all the world to see. I wouldn’t swap my life for theirs for anything. I live in a small house without two pennies to rub together, but I don’t have to do all the things they have to which would bore me silly. I can just go for a walk on the beach any time of day or night I wish and doesn’t cost me a penny.

Thankfully Andrew isn’t front of scene anymore and only appears when the media with their obsession wants to take a pic of him driving somewhere in his car. Whenever I see it and roll my eyes mumbling to myself, haven’t they anything better to do with their time.

I like donkeys too and have a sanctuary nearby so can go and visit them anytime I want.

Loads of people get investigated every day for differing things that doesn’t mean they’re guilty. And this is the latest I could find on that:

Hannah, of Marston Moretaine, Beds, said she did not want to burden the charity with costs so lent cash from her business. It was later reimbursed which, she said, led people to wrongly assume she was siphoning off money.

I like your trusting, simplistic view Wendeey … Captain Tom’s daughter is been investigated … enough said.
As to the royals … they have enough rotten wood and dead wood in them that if they were an ocean going liner they’d have sunk by now.
It’s people like you that keep them alive. That bolster and burnish their image.

Either way … I do believe their days are numbered and doubt whether George will ever get to sit on the throne so perhaps Harry has the right idea in making the break now, I’m sure redundant royals will be able trade on their lineage for some years to come.