Some people have just been brought up with no manners .
Children are dragged up with no social graces or manners. As many don’t get it at home IMO there should be a class at school - perhaps there is - that combines social graces with social responsibly .
Maybe to do with frustration as well Kazz, with this covid and all…I do try and understand that not everyone has been brought up with manners,…if someone is rude to me, I just try and ignore it as you never know what sort of life they have had, but that man going into the back of my legs with his trolley was not acceptable…
Surely teachers are there to teach academically? It is not for them to teach pupils manners or how to behave. That is where parents fall short in the way they bring up their children and lack of parental responsibility has a lot to do with what’s going wrong with some young people nowadays I reckon.
Not all are like that though, I expect there are more well-behaved youngsters than there are those
who lack good manners. 
When you say fall short Baz, maybe the parents weren’t brought up with manners, therefore the cycle is repeated through the generations .
I try not to judge those without manners because you never know how they were brought up, they get through life the way they can by how they were taught…therefore learnt from parents and so on.
I don’t for one minute doubt what you say but where does all this end? If those youngsters of today are not brought up properly and taught what parents should teach their offspring, then as you say their offspring will be the same. So it goes on, until I guess those without a proper upbringing outnumber those who are brought up correctly. When it gets to this stage, and beyond, it will be the end of community as we know it, those badly brought up youngsters will be ruling the rest of society. 
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Baz not sure what you mean by a proper upbringing, I know of well mannered business men who are the biggest rogues going, manners imo doesn’t maketh a person, but it does help if you possess them.
You can have and show manners but it doesn’t make you a nice person.
An explosion of social media, some good some bad, a general dumbing down of standards on the media that now displays absolutely no taboos on bad language and at times pure filth. If all these things are repeated often enough it becomes acceptable as the norm. All in all it can and will culminate in a couldn’t care less attitude among the general population.
I’m reminded of ‘concrete jungles’ ; ‘lack of spaces’ ; ‘no greenery to see often’ ; ‘no fresh air’ ; ‘mindboggling TV & internet’ - ‘no regular social interactions’ . I was brought up in a UK city ; small houses but everyday we got out and saw greenery ;played in greenery and breathed some fresh air
I agree manners should be taught at home, not left to teachers
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Baz not sure what you mean by a proper upbringing, I know of well mannered business men who are the biggest rogues going, manners imo doesn’t maketh a person, but it does help if you possess them.
You can have and show manners but it doesn’t make you a nice person.
Pauline, you are confusing things.
I have manners, well at least I hope I have, I do try.
I am not a nice person at times, I was paid not to be nice but to be a nightmare to those who seek to harm us.
I am also not nice to those who seek to harm my family.
Life is not simple, there is good nice and bad nice, not to be confused with good and bad manners.
Clothes and manners do not make the man.
But when he is made.
They greatly improve his appearance = Arthur Ashe!!.
As I said.
Manners do maketh man ( or woman ) who wants to have to deal with an ill mannered oaf.
Good manners and civility are the oil which makes society run smoothly .
They cost nothing and cover many aspects of life .
Manners mean not throwing your litter on the floor for someone else to clean up , it means not using foul language in public it means holding the door for someone and not eating like an chimpanzee .
Basically manners mean consideration for others .
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“ Good manners have much to do with emotions.
To make them ring true.one must feel them, not merely exhibit them.=Amy Vanderbilt.
They shouldn’t but if children live with mannerless parents from whom do they learn?
That is the trouble social graces once common in every home are no longer taught.
So many children don’t know how to conduct themselves ,while this doesn’t make them better or worse as people it doesn’t help.We live in an increasingly crowded society in order to get along its people that people observe the unwritten rules of good manners .
One doesn’t need to be emotionally attached to be civil and polite .
Then I will agree to disagree.
Manners are felt not just exhibited.
In theory yes.
In practise how do they teach if some of the class is behaving in a bad mannered disruptive manner?
It only takes one to disrupt a class.
Two words cover the remedy for those who disrupt the learning of others:
Zero Tolerance
One pupil misbehaves and if not reprimanded in the correct way and that behaviour stopped, others may follow. Stop that one pupil immediately and it’s a lesson (excuse the pun) to others who may follow.
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That costs money, which we refuse to spend.
We should lead by example…my kids are well mannered because I am. They don’t drop litter because I don’t and they know to take it home…they don’t use foul language because they know its not acceptable…I could go on but you get my drift.
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