Lack of Manners & Social Graces

Following on from the post So Much Litter Everywhere - #29 by paula

It reminded me of a couple of conversations I have had of late with people saying since lockdown ended how people appear to have lost their manners and social etiquette. No patience and throwing of rubbish, shouting rudeness and short tempers has anyone else noticed or heard this. I am hearing of vets closing accounts dentists refusing to treat patients for rudeness. Just a general lack of manners.

Example
I was in Asda yesterday and a man at the pump in front of me was effing and jeffing at the petrol pump as if it could understand him and for no reason I could see; the lady in the car next to me was in a right panic muttering she had to get away I called out to him “everything alright” and he said “No its says pay at pump and no one is coming” :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes:: I said you need to pay with your card they don’t come out, problem solved but the general effect of the forecourt users was “worry concern”

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I’m not sure whether it’s that more people are displaying bad manners since lockdowns ended or if maybe some people and companies are becoming less tolerant of their outbursts and actions at long last?
:man_shrugging:
Whichever it is I agree wholeheartedly that it is more prevalent in recent times (which includes before C-19 arrived) and the behaviour of some people is IMHO apalling.
A close relative’s daughter worked in KFC for a while before starting uni. and some of the things she saw and heard were hair-raising, but I’ve personally seen some people “kick off” in shops or even when trying to park their car where they know it shouldn’t be parked.

Personally I hope that society reinforces that such behaviour is unnacceptable by increasingly refusing interraction with the culprits and banning them from premises.

Someone went into the back of my legs once with a shopping trolley, as I was entering Tesco, he kept telling me to hurry up


Is he alive and able to walk, Pauline? :grinning: :grinning:

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Let’s just say there was a bit of a commotion and security was called, so intimidating,I mean, who expects that when they go shopping.

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That would p1ss me off right royally. but then I rarely go shopping. That said I did go to the supermarket this morning - the Missus has a very bad back - so I had to go there. For me it is a horrible experience.

I wonder if it has been speeded up by being alone in our bubble for such a while and have forgotten how to speak to people. I have never seen so many people on these bikes etc delivering food as I do now either y

Some people have just been brought up with no manners .
Children are dragged up with no social graces or manners. As many don’t get it at home IMO there should be a class at school - perhaps there is - that combines social graces with social responsibly .

Maybe to do with frustration as well Kazz, with this covid and all
I do try and understand that not everyone has been brought up with manners,
if someone is rude to me, I just try and ignore it as you never know what sort of life they have had, but that man going into the back of my legs with his trolley was not acceptable


Surely teachers are there to teach academically? It is not for them to teach pupils manners or how to behave. That is where parents fall short in the way they bring up their children and lack of parental responsibility has a lot to do with what’s going wrong with some young people nowadays I reckon.
Not all are like that though, I expect there are more well-behaved youngsters than there are those
who lack good manners. :thinking: :grinning:

When you say fall short Baz, maybe the parents weren’t brought up with manners, therefore the cycle is repeated through the generations .
I try not to judge those without manners because you never know how they were brought up, they get through life the way they can by how they were taught
therefore learnt from parents and so on.

I don’t for one minute doubt what you say but where does all this end? If those youngsters of today are not brought up properly and taught what parents should teach their offspring, then as you say their offspring will be the same. So it goes on, until I guess those without a proper upbringing outnumber those who are brought up correctly. When it gets to this stage, and beyond, it will be the end of community as we know it, those badly brought up youngsters will be ruling the rest of society. :frowning_face:

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Baz not sure what you mean by a proper upbringing, I know of well mannered business men who are the biggest rogues going, manners imo doesn’t maketh a person, but it does help if you possess them.

You can have and show manners but it doesn’t make you a nice person.

An explosion of social media, some good some bad, a general dumbing down of standards on the media that now displays absolutely no taboos on bad language and at times pure filth. If all these things are repeated often enough it becomes acceptable as the norm. All in all it can and will culminate in a couldn’t care less attitude among the general population.

I’m reminded of ‘concrete jungles’ ; ‘lack of spaces’ ; ‘no greenery to see often’ ; ‘no fresh air’ ; ‘mindboggling TV & internet’ - ‘no regular social interactions’ . I was brought up in a UK city ; small houses but everyday we got out and saw greenery ;played in greenery and breathed some fresh air

I agree manners should be taught at home, not left to teachers

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Baz not sure what you mean by a proper upbringing, I know of well mannered business men who are the biggest rogues going, manners imo doesn’t maketh a person, but it does help if you possess them.

You can have and show manners but it doesn’t make you a nice person.

Pauline, you are confusing things.

I have manners, well at least I hope I have, I do try.

I am not a nice person at times, I was paid not to be nice but to be a nightmare to those who seek to harm us.

I am also not nice to those who seek to harm my family.

Life is not simple, there is good nice and bad nice, not to be confused with good and bad manners.

Clothes and manners do not make the man.
But when he is made.
They greatly improve his appearance = Arthur Ashe!!.

As I said.

Manners do maketh man ( or woman ) who wants to have to deal with an ill mannered oaf.
Good manners and civility are the oil which makes society run smoothly .
They cost nothing and cover many aspects of life .
Manners mean not throwing your litter on the floor for someone else to clean up , it means not using foul language in public it means holding the door for someone and not eating like an chimpanzee .
Basically manners mean consideration for others .

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“ Good manners have much to do with emotions.

To make them ring true.one must feel them, not merely exhibit them.=Amy Vanderbilt.