Pixie don’t you ever watch westerns all self respecting cowboys wear them ,it’s cold out on the range 
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But they wont detract from the free heat and light.
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Stuff them down your clothes all those tramps can’t be wrong
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And pour yourself a G&T…Amazing how warm the house looks through the bottom of a glass…
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I’m quite particular the things ‘I stuff’ down my clothes Muddy…
Ok, Amazon Prime and Netflix, $1 a week for the former, $16 a month for the latter, $20 a month? another 6 days of heat?
You still need something to get you through the other 3 weeks.
You’re only left with Charity donations, Alcohol and lottery tickets, I think you’re running out of options for the deserving poor.
I am curious to know what is pedantic about dealing with reality?
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I think Foxy’s main point of prioritising what one actually needs is sensible. Can’t comment on your situations but our bill is around £10 per day which is sufficient to have ample hot water, cook, wash clothes and heat the house quite adequately for what we need.
Still pretty good value when you compare it to other stuff.
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I doubt the poor are spending £10 a day on phone, video streaming, charities, lotteries etc
While I agree with the idea of prioritising one’s spending these glib, easy, ill thought out solutions are obviously a complete nonsense.
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I think you basing your assumptions are based on Aussie prices Bruce. I used to deliver post to houses where kids were running around with empty bellies and hardly any proper shoes or clothes, but there was always a sky dish on the roof and 50 inch telly on in the living room, while the lady on the house was yabbing on an £800 smartphone. There was also a large number of burned teaspoons scattered around the yard…I don’t know what that was all about. Mostly it was Giro’s I was delivering to those areas.
I agree and am agreeing with OGF’s principles of living frugally but well. The details I’ll leave to you to battle out 
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Some tend to do that around my area and just as soon as they’ve taken all the food bank bags back home.
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Somehow people always judge poor people by their TV .
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I wonder why that is Muddy… 
Could it be one of the reasons why they are poor?
A TV is a small luxury in this day and age you can buy them from Tescos .
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Just to be clear, are you talking about the physical size of the TV or what packages they subscribe to (and hence a partial indicator of content)?
In either case, not sure there’s a causal link in the correlation.
Or use a phone or laptop to watch terrestrial and other streaming services.
Having a TV doesn’t plunge people into poverty it’s a relatively cheap way of entertainment for a family .
The reasons for poverty are far more complex.
IMO poverty is not eating or having proper shelter but there is also poverty of spirit of aspiration .
If life is grim and hopeless what’s wrong with having a TV.
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A telly could probably be purchased on the never never Melgal, and the package would also add to the monthly Direct Debits, together with a contract for the state of the art phone. So I would consider that these monthly deductions (plus any others) from their accounts are causing the real damage to their living standards. Between direct debits and credit, the nation has become unsustainable.
You don’t have to subscribe to anything there is freeveiw.
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No it doesn’t Muddy, but it’s this kind of thinking that does.