Indeed they do…if a person is truly sorry in their heart, then a born again, will “:forgive”…if Kurt is truly sorry, then yes, this born again will forgive him as will her God…
…he said he was sorry for what he did, I’m sure I wasn’t the only one that accepted his apology as long as it was genuine, his manager obviously did, because as far as i know he’s back playing football…so he definitely gets the benefit of the doubt from me…it’s not unforgivable imo.
So you believe that this was an aberration, a one off that it has not happened before and that his apology redeeems himself under your God?
And what of his brother, not only did he film the scumbags cruelty but decided to upload it to the amuusement of sick minded ba*****ds who get off on this sort of stuff, don’t think I have heard his apology?
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I have voiced my opinion/ belief and there it stands above.
Please don’t enforce what you believe onto me, I do not do that to you or any other member.
This topic is not about me having to justify to you, or anyone else ,my opinion or beliefs.…about Kurt Zouma. so I won’t, have a nice day,
Not for the first time you have lost me.
You can’t do something so terribly evil like this one day and say sorry the next so everything is OK…even if he is truly sorry there has to be some retribution…every action provokes a reaction…he may well be truly sorry but his words are not enough …some sort of payment either in time or money has to happen to put things right…just saying sorry no matter how sincere that just isn’t enough.
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Hopefully that will happen when he gets prosecuted. 
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I wont watch it and I wont read about it as things like this stay in my mind and continue to distress me so I have just skimmed through this thread .
He is a vile creature and I hope someone kicks him
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I havent watched it either Susan…im the same as you it would live with me…he did this in front of his child too …forgiveness is earned not given
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We all see forgiveness differently…if he sat down with me and was truly sorry from his heart, that he had learnt a hard lesson, then I would forgive him…forgiveness does not need to be earned imo…genuine repentance and sorrow for what he did, would be good enough for me.
I can’t agree with the forgiveness idea, sorry. This was a calculated pre-thought out act, designed to cause harm and distress to an innocent animal (what if it had been a child?). No words of apology or sorrow can ever make this ok. “People” who do this to animals or children think on such a different level from normal people. This behaviour is part of who they are, and therefore cannot fathom what the fuss is about. Any apology would be fake and in their own interests, not genuine remorse.
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And I can’t agree with the unforgivable idea, sorry, and no one would know if he was truly remorseful ,only He would know that.thats just an assumption.
I.think you could be right Pixie .
If he was the kind of person who felt remorse, he would be the kind of person who wouldn’t have done it in the first place. Remorseful people have compassion and empathy. People who kick cats like footballs, do not.
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Footballers think they can do whatever they like because they earn a huge amount of money. In Zumas video (taken by his brother), that laughing in the background was his son who thought it was funny for his dad to drop kick his pet cat, slap it in the face while his son held it and then throw a shoe at it.
What a bastard !
A 250K fine is not enough for him.
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You are right Pauline we all see things differently but for me there has to be consequences
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Yes his son has to see there are consequences for what his dad did too
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Of course,…so do I, and there have been consequences, he is suffering the consequences of what he did, he has said sorry ,from what I’ve heard, he has more consequences to come from what I read.
But, i would forgive him…forgiveness also doesn’t mean that I would still have to have anything to do with him, I wouldn’t associate myself with him, but I can forgive him.
I would not want to see him suffer for the rest of his life, but yes, he must suffer the consequences of his actions…unforgiveness holds one captive, forgiveness sets one free, imo/ belief.
But, imo it can also take time to forgive…
This is how children learn domestic violence.
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How anyone can forgive someone who treats a poor animal like that should rethink …… what if this action had been done to their own cat or dog? Or any other living creature for that matter.
That cat will suffer for the rest of its life.
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I also think that those who can’t forgive, also need to rethink,…forgiveness doesn’t happen overnight,imo, it can take time,
Nonetheless holding onto unforgiveness can be extremely damaging, because it usually turns to bitterness and hatred,imo.
I was quite amazed at some of the replies on here ,on what they would do to him, that doesn’t make them any better than him,imo.
That’s why I’m thankful for the law as they don’t get “ emotionally involved”…his consequences will fit the crime,imo.