Do extra terrestrials exist

Damn! there’s that word again…it is ‘THOUGHT’

These figures are wildly inaccurate and have come from bogus calculations Bakerman.

I’ll tell you why, and provide a demonstration that you can do at home to provide evidence of why these figures are way out of context.

Firstly, we are dealing in distances…:009: When we look at the infinite size of the universe there comes a point where you can only measure in time (light YEARS for example) Moons circulate planets, planets circulate the sun, and the whole of our galaxy and others, circulate in time. Therefore: What you are seeing is our own planet as it was in the past. So these calculations are multiplying over and over again the same number of galaxies when really they are reflections of the same galaxies but in the past. The life you expect to see on other planets will be our lives in the past, and impossible to ever get to.

So! The demonstration…Place two mirrors on the wall directly opposite each other. Look into one mirror at the reflection of the other mirror. What you should see are an infinite number of rooms stretching into infinity. But they only originate from the one room. The one you are standing in…This is exactly what you will see when you reach a certain point in space…You will see reflections of the world as it was in the past…So no new life I’m afraid, just the one you’ve left behind and can not be included in your calculation.

I find it very interesting that we would prefer to believe that there is life on other planets but don’t believe in the existence of God. Especially since there will never be any proof that there is life on other planets, and yet, the proof that there may be a God is all around us…In his creations!

Actually, I believe in the possibility of one but not the other.

More correctly, I’d say that there is a distinct likelihood of life on other planets, although it is even more likely that we shall never know! :wink:

… and motorbikes have been invisible to car and lorry drivers for Millenia.

Yes but that ‘life’ is our own JB, as described in my post…:069:

Do aliens/extra-terrestrials exist? Probably
Are there any intelligent life forms out there? Possibly.
Are they more intelligent than (some of) us? Possibly.
Will we ever find them or make contact? Possible but unlikely.

BTW, I too have seen a UFO.
I’ve also seen bright lights in the sky that appear to stand still then shoot off at great speed, but they are IFOs.

I used to work in the aerospace industry and saw and heard about all sorts of things that fly, hover, give off bright shining lights, or are difficult or impossible to see in certain conditions, soundless, big, small, and everything in between.

I’m not surprised people think some of the stuff I have seen is not of this world.

I once worked on an unmanned project. We were only allowed to work on/know about our bit. There was a big hump shaped “thing” under a tarpaulin and several of my colleagues were speculating what it was for.
I said, “It’s where the pilot sits of course” :lol:

Do aliens/extra-terrestrials exist? No
Are there any intelligent life forms out there? No
Are they more intelligent than (some of) us? No
Will we ever find them or make contact? No unless you can travel back in time…

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Us humans are the most imaginative thing on the planet, and sometimes fiction seeps over into fact…Actually, not ‘Sometimes’ …But most of the time…:smiley:

All UFO means is that it is Unidentified by the viewer…
To someone who lives in the jungle, everything he sees in the sky is a UFO…:shock:

And pedestrians invisible to cyclists!

Life on other planets is our own?
I’m afraid I don’t understand your concept, OGF.

Are you saying that we sent something of ours to another planet which created life there?

I think you’ll have to explain further.

Can you prove that? :lol:

Ah, I see what you mean (or I think I do - you talk in riddles!).

You are suggesting that we are the creation of another race/creation/call it what you will, which came from another planet and visited the Earth thousands of years ago.

At that time, we were not human, not even animals of any sort; perhaps we were nothing more than microbes or the beginning of life.

These visitors implanted something into the equation and created the beginnings of human life.

Yes, another distinct possibility, and an interesting one at that.

Such a long time ago now, and I wonder what became of our creators…
a god, perhaps?
Some people claim that they can talk to him/her/them.

Space and time JB… At some point distance becomes measured in time i.e.Light YEARS…Therefore what you are looking at in deep space is where the earth was in the past. Everything in space goes round in circles. The moon round planets, planets around the sun, so it is only logical that our whole solar system revolves around something else. Eventually you will see the earth in the past, so the life you describe in other worlds, is us!

No JB…Refer to Prof Brian Cox who presents just half of the story…

Thanks Summer…
I remember watching Brian Cox talking about life on other planets he said he was sure it existed but to find other life like ours here on earth he was sure that would not exist. He said we evolved from a series of genetic accidents that would be impossible to emulate.

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Sorry, OGF. Interesting argument but it has absolutely no basis in reality. According to your beliefs, even our own galaxy does not exist. Hence, when we look at the stars in the night sky, we are seeing our own sun reflected back at us ???

Moreover, according to you, when astronomers take photos of a super-nova (exploding star) what they are actually seeing is our own sun exploding in the distant past . Hmm that’s quite funny. :-p:-p:-p

You should contact all of the world’s astronomers and explain to them that they are wrong. :shock::shock::shock:

In a previous post you mentioned, God. I think I should point out that if there is one single thing which has tried desperately to keep mankind ignorant, it is the belief in a God.

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Exactly! Even Brian Cox (who I admire greatly) says that he is sure that life exists on (some) other planets.
I have never suggested that life like ours would exist elsewhere!

Having said that, if the basic structure of matter - atoms and molecules - exist elsewhere, which I’m sure they do (they certainly do in our solar system), then it is possible that carbon-based life forms can exist elsewhere.

Of course they won’t look like us… not like Star Trek, for example, where just about every alien life form possesses two legs and two arms, primarily to accommodate the bodies of the actors playing them! :lol:

Not possible - comets do not “shoot across the sky”. A common mistake made by authors.

Interesting thought. 4 limbs. I can’t think of any mammal, or bird for that matter, which does not have 4 limbs. Even a whale, if you dissect it, you will find 4 limbs.

No, not always and there are times when a comets tail is not visible from earth. Identifying what you saw is often a process of elimination.

Daleks don’t, though I suppose they’re not mammals.

Maybe God does exist and life on other planets also exists? Maybe one and the same. Those who believe in God say he is responsible for life on Earth. Whether you believe in the Adam and Eve, or the more scientific Big Bang theory, is not that important. I was brought up to believe in Adam and Eve and that God created the Earth and all that it contains. I no longer believe in this but I do think there is a possibility that life on Earth was created by another lifeform, by leaving a seed, and that lifeform, therefore, is my God.

I think it’s possible to believe in God but to detach that belief from Heaven and Hell, Angels and Judgement Day and so on.