Covid-19 Vaccinations

The vaccines have only been tested over the short term, the long term issues are quite unknown. The official testing of these vaccines will be complete in 2023, until then they are classed as ‘Experimental’…

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03441-8

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[I]The approval is a historic moment. But scientists still have many questions about how this and other vaccines will perform as they’re rolled out to millions of people.

Do the vaccines prevent transmission of SARS-CoV-2?
In addition to the Pfizer vaccine, regulators are poring over data from a similar vaccine made by Moderna of Cambridge, Massachusetts, and a third produced by AstraZeneca of Cambridge, UK, and the University of Oxford, UK. All three have been tested in large clinical trials, and have shown promise in preventing disease symptoms.

But none has demonstrated that it prevents infection altogether, or reduces the spread of the virus in a population. This leaves open the chance that those who are vaccinated could remain susceptible to asymptomatic infection — and could transmit that infection to others who remain vulnerable. “In the worst-case scenario, you have people walking around feeling fine, but shedding virus everywhere,” says virologist Stephen Griffin at the University of Leeds, UK.

The major vaccine trials so far have enrolled tens of thousands of people, but for each one, conclusions about effectiveness are drawn from fewer than 200 people who have developed disease. As a result, it can be difficult to break up the data to look at efficacy in different groups — such as people who are obese or elderly — without losing statistical power. “We need to see more data in terms of effects of vaccines across different demographics,” says Michael Head, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of Southampton, UK.

There are early indications that the three leading vaccines protect people over 65. But researchers will probably need real-world data from large numbers of vaccinated people before they can get the demographic granularity necessary to ensure that parts of the population aren’t left unprotected.

How will scientists monitor for long-term safety concerns?
“The public’s safety has always been at the forefront of our minds,” said June Raine, chief executive of the UK Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), in a statement that accompanied the UK announcement that it had approved the Pfizer vaccine.

The vaccine has completed only a few months of the two-year clinical-trial period that it will need to complete before it is approved to be sold freely on the market. As a result, health officials, clinicians and people receiving the vaccine will be watching closely for as-yet unobserved signs of danger.[/I]

There is something called autoimmune vertigo. I wonder whether it’s the immune response that’s triggering all these problems. Research has found the blood clots are a result of auto immune responses too. Although the current studies are all disputing links between the vaccines and flare up of pre-existing autoimmune conditions, indicating that such events are coincidental…I’m guessing it would be impossible to prove conclusively in a science study given the number of variables. So a case of patients saying one thing and no science to back it up.

I had my second AZ jab yesterday and haven’t even got a sore arm. :slight_smile:

A new study has found that those vaccinated were 38 to 40% less likely to pass the virus on to others.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56904993

A non-peer-reviewed study as yet.

Just had my second injection about and hour and a half ago.
I didn’t even feel the needle and no reactions as yet.

I must say that they are very well organised. When I arrived there was a long queue right round the building and I thought ‘Good God’. As it happens, I only had to stand for ten minutes as they were exceptionally well prepared and were pushing the customers through very quickly.

It made me feel proud to be British, because it shows just how efficient and organised we can be when we try.

That’s good news Twink :023:

I too have had both vaccines AZ,had a reaction with first one with shivering/ teeth chattering which lasted one night only…no reaction at all with 2nd one…I’m feeling so much more secure since being vaccinated,and have lost the fear I felt a Year ago…onward and upwards :cool:

Pleased to hear it went well JB, hope it stays that way. :slight_smile:

I have nothing but praise for the NHS, Boris and all concerned with keeping us safe.

Had my second one a few days ago (AZ). Felt terrible that night with pains in my hips that needed lots of pain killers, and also insomnia. Now the arm just feels like it’s been punched, but only if I flex it.

Also knew of other people who had body pains afterwards.

Hope everyone is feeling better.

Yay! Same as us then. 4 days on from our 2nd AZ jabs and the bruises around the injection sites have gone. No other problems arising from the vaccinations to report. :026::041::mini::026::041::mini:

Thanks Mags, I felt tired and ill after the first one, but only for a day.

This time I am more concerned about my asthmatic cat , who goes in for a minor operation tomorrow, so I am beginning to wonder if some side effects are psychological. I wasn’t really ill after the first, just painful muscles & very tired, but I know a few on here suffered much worse.

Hi Art :slight_smile: you may be referring to the reports of 60 odd cases of Myocarditis that that are being investigated in Israel that may or may not be connected to the Pfizer vaccine and affecting mainly young men.
Expect to hear more of this in days to come.

So pleased to hear others had no reaction to the vaccination.

I think I would have been ok with the flu like side effects from the vaccination that left me unable to move for 6 hours if I hadn’t had an existing highly symptomatic heart condition that leaves me unable to function for 10 hours every 10 days.

I am still having issues after 13 days but I am a lot better after 9 days of feeling very ill. I thought I would have to resort to hospital because my BP/heart rate and oxygen levels were so low and I had lay down and raise my legs to stay conscious. If I get any type of infection it adversely effects my heart condition so I guess the vaccination did the same.

Still I am not grumbling, I can cope because I am pretty sure if I had caught Covid I would not have survived.
I am ready for the booster in September :-).

ETA I have reported my reaction via the yellow card scheme.

I had a letter today to volunteer for the post vaccination antibody screening being done by Ipsos MORI/ Imperial College London .
I said yes so will wait to see if I have been chosen to take part, it is just a lateral flow test to do at home.
I jolly well hope I have antibodies after having a bad reaction :lol:

Jazzi :slight_smile: my neighbour had similar pains, I had them all over my body but couldn’t move all night to get any painkillers.

Have you tried an ice pack on your arm…

It’s a bit worrying that fashion designer Alber Elbaz died of covid despite being fully vaccinated. Apparently of the South African variant.

I hope everything feels better soon, Jazzi…

A headache again now, like last time.
I can live with that.
Only one aspirin left, so I took one aspirin and one paracetamol.
I prefer aspirins. I’m old fashioned like that.

I hope your headache will clear by tomorrow, JB…