Covid-19 Vaccinations

Some information here on the findings from the yellow card system. Over 46,000 yellow cards reported from the Pfizer vaccine and over 126,00 from the Astra Zeneca vaccine.

Interesting ā€¦ :!:

Conclusion

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[]Vaccines are the best way to protect people from Covid-19 and have already saved thousands of lives. Everyone should continue to get their vaccination when asked to do so unless specifically advised otherwise.
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]As with all vaccines and medicines, the safety of COVID-19 vaccines is being continuously monitored .
[*]Cases of an extremely rare specific type of blood clot with low blood platelets continue to be investigated.
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Further information on the type of suspected adverse reactions (ADRs) reported for the COVID-19 mRNA Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca is provided in Annex 1. It is important to read the guidance notes to ensure appropriate interpretation of the data.

Another link:

Impact of COVID-19 vaccines on mortality in England

December 2020 to February 2021

I found this bit interesting: ā€œFor both vaccines the overall reporting rate is around 3 to 6 Yellow Cards per 1,000 doses administeredā€

Now if more people knew about this, the figures would be so much higher. And I am of the opinion that this is why it is not being ā€œpublicisedā€ if you like. I think it should be mentioned after every single advert telling you to get vaccinated - and there are so many of them on TV and radio!

Hi Mups thanks for reposting. Iā€™ve now logged my experiences on the site. Very important that everyone who has the vaccine fills this in even if they just have mild symptoms because they will then have a better picture than if people who just react badly like us fill it in.

Well done Annie. :023:

Presumably those with acute side effects from the vaccines would be in touch with their doctors so you would think it would be up to the doctors to file a report. The yellow cards have been around for a long time, long before covid19.

In relation to this statement

"For both vaccines, the overwhelming majority of reports relate to injection-site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as ā€˜flu-likeā€™ illness, headache, chills, fatigue (tiredness), nausea (feeling sick), fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these happen shortly after the vaccination and are not associated with more serious or lasting illness."

I strongly disagree with this assumption :

ā€œThese types of reactions reflect the normal immune response triggered by the body to the vaccines. They are typically seen with most types of vaccine and tend to resolve within a day or twoā€

These are not ā€œnormal immune responseā€ symptoms. Iā€™ve never had any such thing with any vaccine Iā€™ve had. Just the sore arm and maybe wanting to go to bed early on the day. Zilch of the awful other side effects.

The GPs are not filing reports anywhere in covid land. Perhaps if you have a hospital admission they will but I strongly doubt itā€™s that organised.

Well done you too :slight_smile:

Iā€™ve decided Iā€™m not going ahead with the second dose. I donā€™t give a ratā€™s monkey whether it stops me going abroad (or the office). Happy to have staycations until this is over. In fact itā€™s a convenient excuse to hibernate for longer. After the last year the last thing I fancy is getting on plane and all that palaver.

My thoughts exactly, what would anybody expect from a relatively untested vaccine that is different from all other vaccines in the past. Iā€™m of the opinion that if there is any doubt itā€™s better to do nothing at the moment, and protect yourself in the established ways. I think this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Scot, it doesnā€™t work like that, not here anyway.
I was, and still am, ā€˜in touch with my doctor,ā€™ but as I have said previously, although he said it was a vaccine reaction, he never once offered to report it, nor did he suggest I did either, so I did it myself.

Itā€™s like they would prefer us to keep quiet about it!

And yes, I know the yellow card was around before Covid, and I said this earlier.

Here are other things it deals with incase anyone else is interested:

The scheme collects information on suspected problems or incidents involving -

  1. side effects (also known as adverse drug reactions or ADRs)
  2. medical device adverse incidents
  3. defective medicines (those that are not of an acceptable quality)
  4. counterfeit or fake medicines or medical devices
  5. safety concerns for e-cigarettes or their refill containers (e-liquids)

It would be nice if it did work like that but GPs in England are just too busy and have such big lists that they cannot give the personalised care that they would in the old days. Big companies are starting to take over like Bupa did with dental surgeries.

The two page sheet I received when I had my first shothad a list of expected side effects and unusual but possible side effects also adverse side effect to watch out for.

It also had the URL of a government web site where ALL side effects were to be reported. I did not bother to report a sore arm.

There is a push here to try to stop the loss of confidence in the AstraZeneca vaccination for the over 50s. Medical centres are reporting cancellations of 50% - this is a worry because currently only over 70s are eligible for the vaccination.

You should report a sore arm Bruce otherwise the data will be skewed to those who have the sort of reaction I did.

They must know that everyone gets a sore arm ā€¦ caused by a longish needle into a muscle.

Pity it canā€™t be done intravenously.

How are you today, Annie?

Had my second jab (Pfizer) on Saturday. No ill effects, apart from an achy feeling on the Sunday. However I put that down to spending that day with our 4 & 6 year old granddaughters! Right as rain today.:-):slight_smile:

Bit up and down thanks Mups :). I was talking to a colleague who had covid and then had the AZ vaccine and we both have similar symptoms with muscle and joint pain, pulled muscles after little activity, ongoing fatigue. She said her symptoms also got worse after the vaccine. I have been struggling to get out of bed for all this time Iā€™m ok once I am up but come evening Iā€™m very tired. So while my mind is active I canā€™t really do a lot of physical things I might do unless I have a good day or good part of a day. So earlier I managed to take some geraniums out of the shed, but now Iā€™m feeling tired again. Hence Iā€™m spending so much time on here :slight_smile:

How are you doing Mups - is the hearing anywhere near normal now?

Gosh Annie, thatā€™s weird. I am just the same as you with the awful tiredness. I am tired now, just sitting here writing this, and wonā€™t be long going to bed.
How long have you been like this now?

And No, the hearing isnā€™t improving. Still waiting for the MRI results.
Itā€™s driving me nuts. :frowning:

Iā€™m so sorry your hearing is not improving. When did you have the MRI?

Iā€™ve been tired since the time I thought I had (and probably did have) covid last March, but I was able to do things and then deal with the muscle and joint pains the next few days. But after the vaccine it all came back and I was much worse. I even find long (social) phone calls exhausting.

Iā€™ve worked out that alcohol makes it worse, eating a veggie diet (but if not then avoiding red meat) makes it better, lying in bed or sitting in one position for too long makes it worse (the stiffness), I drink a lot of water.

Youā€™re already a healthy eater Mups from what Iā€™ve seen. Are you drinking plenty of water? I used to be so bad at hydrating but now itā€™s a healing thing. Itā€™s interesting that for both you and Summer itā€™s affected the ear region