Coronavirus

Exactly tessa!!
WHY??
Perhaps they know nightingale capacity is not enough??

Donkeyman!

You took the words out of my mouth, Donkeyman and Tess.:023:
Why indeed?
Could it be they haven’t got the extra staff?

There are already many cases taking up beds in ‘normal’ hospitals, and risking spreading it to other vulnerable sick people.
I would have thought even the people treating these cases risk further spreading it too, unless they do not treat anyone but Corvid patients?

Something else I have wondered about too is, I never hear a word about the deceased patients. How are these bodies dealt with?
Does the infection die with them, or stay active for some time?
Can they go in the hospital mortuary?
Do ordinary undertakers handle them?
Is burial allowed, or do they have to be cremated because of infection?

Yes, I’ve wonder where the bodies are stored too Mups.
Regarding burial or cremations, I would have thought because they might still hold the infection, they would be cremated. But that’s only my thoughts, I don’t know for sure.

We never hear about that side of it, do we.

Someone did tell me that the old recycling tip about 10 miles from here has closed, and is being used to store bodies. :shock:
I don’t know if it is true or not. I’ve heard that a couple of times now though.

Personally, I think with any highly contagious disease, cremation should be mandatory.

There is a temporary morgue set up about 5 minutes away from us. I don’t know if it has been used yet but they have gone to a lot of trouble making it look so respectful, it is surrounded by tubs of flowers.

There will be enough space for 240 bodies there.

The virus won’t stay active for long after a host dies. But when my neighbour’s hubby died of Covid, she had to wait months for the funeral. They would not release the body. They do allow normal burials. You don’t have to be cremated. In fact it’s a good question whether you can be because at the height of the first wave I thought crematoriums were closed.

Yep, I agree.

But thinking some more - perhaps if folk adamantly want their loved one to be buried rather than cremated, hopefully they have some special solution or something to ‘wipe’ the infection out to make that possible.

I mean we know people have sometimes booked and paid for their bodies to be interred with their deceased loved ones.
Surely that must be respected in some way, even though there might be risks maybe they’ve (hopefully) figured a way round.
In those case, it’s sad to think they will be apart even in death.

Oh, I bet it is true here as well then, Mags.

Maybe Mups, they will only used when absolutely necessary…

"We must be ready to ensure we deal with that in the most dignified and sensitive way possible so we can respect the deceased and their families.

“We are following national guidance, and building a temporary mortuary will be similar to a number of others planned around the country, as we all come to terms with the tragic implications of this crisis.”

The council said its staff working would be offered emotional support, and the morgue, which will be close to nearby housing, would be “discreetly concealed”.

I am a bit surprised at that Annie.

Although I realise it is nothing like the same, I remember reading about Anthrax cattle being burned because of risking soil contamination otherwise. And even if some were buried very deep down, it caused concern when the fields flooded in winter.

Pesta, I take your point though, about families last wishes and such.
Difficult isn’t it. :frowning:

When I read about things like this and recall the situation in Italy and Spain it makes me very pleased that both our Federal and State Governments acted decisively the way that they did, when they did.

Despite their political differences the various levels of government learned the lessons of Europe and, most importantly, listened to the science. I think were were also well served by the fact that our health service is not centralised but run locally.

I hope they keep being as successful but events in Victoria show how quickly a stupid mistake can get out of hand and set us back weeks. It is a fine balancing act.

A bit of political bickering is setting in over border closures and I hope this doesn’t spoil their record.

There is more talk now of a travel bubble with NZ and even some Pacific nations.

I don’t know anybody that has died of Covid and only vaguely know, via a mutual friend, a couple who caught the disease when they were on the notorious Ruby Princess. According to friends the bloke was severely ill and in ICU for some weeks.

Covid data for Tuesday, 13 October 2020

Global Cases: 38,040,148
Increase: 294,095
Global Deaths: 1,085,373
Increase: 3,938

Australia
Cases 27,310 Change: 25
Deaths 899 Change: 1
Critical 1
Cases per Million 1,068

UK
Cases 617,688 Change: 13,972
Deaths 42,875 Change: 50
Critical 442
Cases per Million 9,085

USA
Cases 8,037,789 Change: 45,791
Deaths 220,011 Change: 316
Critical 14,914
Cases per Million 24,243

Another, perhaps temporary, setback in the hunt for a covid vaccine

Johnson & Johnson says it has temporarily paused its COVID-19 vaccine candidate clinical trials due to an unexplained illness in a study participant, delaying one of the highest-profile efforts to contain the global pandemic.

The participant’s illness is being reviewed and evaluated by an independent data and safety monitoring board as well as the company’s clinical and safety physicians, the company said.

The Oxford trial was halted for a while for a similar reason.

More information about Britain’s emerging Covid crisis on our news this evening. It doesn’t sound too promising over there in Europe at the moment. I hope it isn’t as bad as they tell us here but it sounds pretty serious going into winter.

If those beds were full of patients Bruce, that will be the time to worry.

Hi

I would be much happier if they were full OGF.

Treating Covid in local hospitals increases infections and prevents normal operations.

Covid data for Wednesday, 14 October 2020

Global Cases: 38,361,289
Increase: 321,141
Global Deaths: 1,090,811
Increase: 5,438

Australia
Cases 27,337 Change: 27
Deaths 904 Change: 5
Critical 1
Cases per Million 1,069

UK
Cases 634,920 Change: 17,232
Deaths 43,018 Change: 143
Critical 507
Cases per Million 9,339

USA
Cases 8,090,253 Change: 52,464
Deaths 220,873 Change: 862
Critical 15,079
Cases per Million 24,401

Yes I agree Swim.
They tell us to observe social distancing and then go and mix covid patients with none covid patients in the same building…:frowning:

How quickly things can change Covid has taken a turn for the worse in the First State.

Very worrying times, Bruce :frowning: