Coronavirus

I’d hesitate to call it “research” I just googled something like UK Covid Statistics and it was the first result.

Covid data for Saturday, 10 October 2020

Global Cases 37,110,989
Global Deaths 1,072,712

Australia
Cases 27,244
Deaths 897
Critical 3
Cases per Million 1,065

UK
Cases 575,679
Deaths 42,679
Critical 436
Cases per Million 8,468

USA
Cases 7,894,478
Deaths 218,648
Critical 14,777
Cases per Million 23,812

The ABC evening news has reported a surge of covid cases in Europe of about 100,000 in one day.

The UK, France and Germany were mentioned in particular and they reported that the UK hospitals and testing system was struggling under the surging numbers.

Probably not news for you Europeans but it was severe enough to make the main news here.

13,864 new infections recorded overnight in the UK.
With 87 new deaths…

The figures in the earlier post from the ONS suggested that 616,014 passed away in the year 2018, which was by no means a high mortality year, with 1976 (680,799 deaths) and 1993 (658,194) there were also a few other years that contained higher figures than 2018 so just an average year then.

So with a year total for 2020 (including deaths from Covid) we reach 453,803 deaths for the first nine months.
Even if we add another 150,000 deaths for the last three months, which would be above average for most previous months. We will arrive at 603,803 deaths for 2020…

Not only are the scientists projected mortality figures grossly exaggerated, they are frightening and deceiving for Joe public to make sensible and realistic judgements about the future.

The governments and scientists throw these massive figures around in order to provoke a response, but in order to give these figures any kind of credence or relativity, you must also have something to compare them with, otherwise they are just meaningless fear mongering huge numbers. I hope you can now understand why I have posted these calculations and statistics…Did you think that this year was going to be the worst ever year on record for the most deaths in the UK?..:009:

Like I’ve said before, Foxy, there’s Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics. You can bend them, shape them, any way you want them (apologies to Amen Corner :lol:) to say whatever you want them to say.

I’m still having problems with the daily death rate that “includes those that have died having had a positive C-19 test in the past 28 days”. If they died in a car accident, for example, what has Covid-19 got to do with this, FGS?

Covid data for Sunday, 11 October 2020

Global Cases 37,468,486
Global Deaths 1,077,507

Australia
Cases 27,261
Deaths 898
Critical 1
Cases per Million 1,066

UK
Cases 590,844
Deaths 42,760
Critical 442
Cases per Million 8,691

USA
Cases 7,945,505
Deaths 219,282
Critical 14,720
Cases per Million 23,965

New version or existing version?

Covid data for Sunday, 11 October 2020

Global Cases 37,478,315
Increase: 367,326
Global Deaths 1,077,630
Increase: 4,918

Australia
Cases 27,265 Daily Increase: 21
Deaths 898 Daily Increase: 1
Critical 1
Cases per Million 1,066

UK
Cases 590,844 Daily Increase: 15,165
Deaths 42,760 Daily Increase: 81
Critical 442
Cases per Million 8,691

USA
Cases 7,945,505 Daily Increase: 51,027
Deaths 219,282 Daily Increase: 634
Critical 14,720
Cases per Million 23,965

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

These are figures derived from the table not official figures.

I can put the increase on a separate line like the Global figures or on the same line.

(Yep it is Sunday evening and I wasn’t doing anything else :slight_smile: The figures are different to the previous post because they were derived at different times on a different computer)

I like the new version showing the increase in figures, it saves my old brain from working it out every day.

I appreciate you giving us these details every day Bruce, it’s very easy to follow and also shows how our overseas members are faring.

Same here Bruce, I like the new version, even if the statistics are iffy, at least they still work as a good comparison on how we are doing each day…:023:

To say the Americans have roughly the same infection rate as the UK, their death rate is still high.

Yes I agree Percy, there is a difference between; ‘Dying with Covid’ and ‘Dying of Covid’…

I agree.

Some things, like falls and other accidents should not be counted.

Neither should deaths from Cancer.

The problem is that Corona has many effects on the human body, it causes blood clotting, lethal embolisms.

I personally think that these should be counted in the total.

It seems to me that UK’s surge coincides with the increase in
testing ?? But the deaths have not followed the inrease in tested
cases to any significant degree !!
This confirms imo that the virus is of no real consequence to the
general populace that is under60yrs of age with no previous lung
related problems , and therefore lockdowns could be avoided by
the economically active section of the populace as long as the two
catergories are kept apart from each other? This seperation should
benself regulated with minor adjustments made to shopping
facilities t do this,( some is allready in place?).
I STILL see no mention of using the nightingale hospitals???

Donkeyman!

True donkeyman, the increase it testing availability and efficiency will indeed bolster the infection figures, as will schools and universities returning to normal. I’ve always believed that there are/were many more infected people in society than the figures suggested. Opening schools and universities is a good thing, the young people will act as a human wall for us oldies, once they have been infected and recovered.

I agree with both of you. After increasing test availability and efficiency, you have to consider the sensitivity of the test too. It has been found that some labs in the USA are using too many (40 or more) “RNA iteration cycles” to increase the viral load in the sample to make it detectable. This is against WHO test protocols, which state 30 to 35 cycles are all that is necessary; any more and the test becomes far too sensitive resulting in “false positive” results. I sincerely hope and pray our testing laboratories are following the exact test protocols and our “false positive” results are very minimal.

Covid data for Monday, 12 October 2020

Global Cases: 37,746,053
Increase: 277,567
Global Deaths: 1,081,435
Increase: 3,928

Australia
Cases 27,285 Change: 24
Deaths 898 Change: 0
Critical 1
Cases per Million 1,067

UK
Cases 603,716 Change: 12,872
Deaths 42,825 Change: 65
Critical 442
Cases per Million 8,880

USA
Cases 7,991,998 Change: 46,493
Deaths 219,695 Change: 413
Critical 14,741
Cases per Million 24,105

How’s that? There are problems with the formatting because the OFF text editor removes TABs and multiple spaces.

I have no idea anymore about what we can and can’t do!
We have very few cases but being lumped in with surrounding towns.
Fed up now!

Nightingale hospitals in some ares are on standby.
Why aren’t they used for all cases straight away, not let patients with the virus into the other hospitals?!

That’s fine Bruce, thanks!

I agree, far easier to see how we are doing (or not doing) in the fight against covid…Nice one Bruce…:023:

Yes, exactly.

Then the other hospitals can hopefully get back to how they were.

And I can get an appointment at the Eye Hospital!