Coronavirus

The NSW government has announced its stage two package to respond to the coronavirus pandemic and its economic devastation.

The measures include:

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[]A $1bn fund to create businesses and retrain employees
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]Deferral of payroll tax for businesses with payrolls over $10m for six months. Businesses with payrolls of less than $10m already received a three-month waiver, but now will get an additional three-month deferral
[]Deferral of gaming tax for pubs, clubs, hotels and lotteries for six months on the condition this is used to retain staff
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]Deferral of parking space levy for six months
[]Deferrals of rent in government-owned buildings for commercial tenants with fewer than 20 employees
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]$34m to prevent homelessness
[]$30m boost to the energy accounts payments assistance scheme
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]$10m for charities and $6m for Lifeline
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Or even two weeks.

I trust everyone has their affairs in order because if you haven’t this is the time.

Hi

Very sensible advice.:slight_smile:

You can’t have much of an affair if you have to stay 1.5m apart.

The USA has leapt to the top of the total cases chart with more cases than China or Italy. Australia has topped 3000 cases, there are 145 unexplained cases.

Global Cases 532263
Global Deaths 24090
Mortality Rate 4.5%
(Flu Mortality Rate 0.1%)

Australia
Cases 3050
Deaths 13
Critical 23
Cases per Million 120

U.K.
Cases 11658
Deaths 578
Critical 163
Cases per Million 172

USA
Cases 85594
Deaths 1300
Critical 2122
Cases per Million 259

Prime Minister Scotty from Marketing has enlisted the Defence Force to help the states and territories ensure all arrivals from abroad will self-isolate in hotels and other accommodation for two weeks before they are able to return to their home.

People disobeying the social distancing rules will be shot on sight.

(I might have made that last one up)

You can not compare the total number of cases in the U.S with cases in the U.K and expect to get a real picture of what is happening. The U.S. has a population of 329 million, while the UK has only a fraction of that number: 56 million. Thus the U.S. has 5.8 times the pop. of the UK.

If we take the number of actual cases within the U.K. (11,658) and multiply by 5.8 you would get a much better picture of what is actually happening. 11,658 X 5.8 = 67,616 cases (adjusted for population)

So, the U.S. still has more cases /million but not significantly more than the U.K.

Moreover, we have no way of knowing (from the link posted) what population numbers they are using.

Additionally, to be fair and honest, when comparing countries, Italy and Spain should be included. That, would REALLY open peoples eyes.

I told you that The Beatles were ahead of their time

Who is comparing the USA with the UK? Ridiculous comment. BTW China has a population of 1.3billion but so what?

Hi

Stop being so defensive and accept the reality of the situation.

Parts, but not all of the USA are severely affected.

They are being overwhelmed and my heart goes out to them.

New York, California and Washington State.

Other States have very few cases.

It is the same here in the UK.

We have very few cases here in Shropshire.

We intend to keep it that way by Social Distancing.

Trump is an idiot, saying that it will be over by Easter.

You are not unique in having Idiot Politicians, we have plenty of our own.

You are, every time you post the numbers of cases in the U.S, the U.K and AUSTRALIA. You clearly state in your posts CASES/MILLION.

MOREOVER, YOU MADE A POINT OF STATING, " THE U.S HAS LEPT TO THE TOP OF TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES".

YOUR ANTI-AMERICANISM IS PLAIN FOR ALL TO SEE. HEAVEN KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE BUM-RAPPED AMERICA AND AMERICANS. IF YOUR GOAL IS TO DRIVE AMERICANS OUT OF OVER 50’S FORUM, THEN YOU ARE GOING ABOUT IT THE RIGHT WAY.

President Trump never said any such thing. he said he hopes that PARTS of the workforce could be returned to work by Easter.

I disagree with him ,but if you are going to keep slamming Pres. Trump, at least make an attempt to get your facts straight.

The numbers are not comparable because you’d have to see the underlying demographics to interpret the figures. You also need to know the capacity of healthcare systems to cope with sudden surges in demand.

So with a large elderly population, with a large number of underlying health conditions (such as the UK), this is a bigger risk than a younger population. But the other important variable is the sophistication and capacity of the healthcare system. The biggest problem with this disease is the high hospitalisation rate relative to other infectious diseases. Lack of access to healthcare will increase the death rate.

In the US they have been saying that the healthcare sector simply does not have that level of flexibility for capacity surges.

In the UK we are cutting it fine. We may have the capacity available in time if the complete idiots not taking lockdown seriously are made to remain in their homes. There still seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding of the gravity of the disaster we are facing here.

Why is Germany coping so well ?

They have better facilities, extensive testing including those with mild symptoms.

They also have a lower median age of infection than other countries, but I think that’s a red herring because it will be down to testing widely.

Testing is the key to addressing this. South Korea managed it because of extensive testing and then finding out who the infected had been in contact with and testing all of them.

Bakerman Calmarte Amigo !

We are all in this together getting het up about it will not help .
I know I have recently had a similar fracas on FB .

Here listen to this I posted on the music section but here it is for you ,it just brilliant !

Thank you Annie .

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Hans_Flaatten/publication/229013572/figure/fig2/AS:393888457084930@1470921734365/Comparison-of-the-numbers-of-critical-care-beds-per-100-000-against-the-proportion-of.png

I think we have since increased our critical care capacity but I noticed that the last major data exercise was in 2012, although this does give a general idea of where countries are with critical care capacity. You will see Italy was slightly better off than us at that time. So we have been trying to catch up in two weeks.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Hans_Flaatten/publication/229013572/figure/fig1/AS:393888457084929@1470921734187/Numbers-of-critical-care-beds-corrected-for-size-of-population-per-100-000-inhabitants.png