It did occur to me that this story line could open up a lot of old wounds for some people and giving a warning that there are some emotional scenes, beforehand, is no excuse for showing it before the watershed time.
Some children watch this programme and I feel that showing the trauma ,the parents deal with, could upset kids whose mothers had been through similar experiences.
I always think that we shouldn’t try to hide death from children but scenes, like those shown, are something most parents would try to hide from their other children… if it has happened to them.
A practical thought came to mind last night, if a birth before 24 weeks can’t be recorded, or the death, what happens funeral wise.
It would be a very short eulogy Spitty…
Did anyone see Eastenders on Wednesday or was it Thursday?
Is it just me who thinks Sharon called Phil a B****** when she was telling Michelle about the baby?
I wondered that too … as according to the law no little person even existed. That was perhaps the cruellest part of the storyline. To deny it’s existence. But, yes … who legally claims responsibility for the body that was in effect … non-existent.
I did think actually showing Michelle nursing the dead baby might have been a little too close to the bone for any viewers who had to struggle through the same experience themselves.
Eastenders on the Coronation Street thread…Wash you mouth out Rhian…And write fifty lines…‘I must not mention E&+nd$ on this thread again’ Or face the alternative…A slipper on the buttocks…
I would imagine that if the little chap or chap’es was deceased when born, then he never really existed. There must be a starting point in the pregnancy when it would have been considered a life and acknowledged with a death certificate. It appears that point is 24 weeks.
Oh, she’ll like that!
Yesssir
I’m sorry sir
Never again sir
Not considering the “should they” “shouldn’t they” arguement…I thought her acting was pretty damn good…or was it acting?
Maybe she was reliving her own ordeal of losing a baby.
Legally before 24 it is a miscarriage and need not be recorded.
After 24 weeks it is a stillbirth and should have both birth and death certificates. That must be a sad thing to have to do.
Baby is buried by the hospital.
The hospital has to bury a lot of people believe it or not , state, paupers, council burials, whatever you wish to call them
Usually an unregistered baby will be placed in a coffin with an adult that the council have paid to bury
They aren’t just discarded
I think … personally, if it were me that was the unfortunate mother I’d rather take my child and make my own arrangements.
I wonder if hypothetically Michelle could do that?
Just managed to find this on a site …
[I]For babies who die during pregnancy before 24 weeks, the situation is different because there is no law that governs what happens to these babies, although there is guidance from the Royal College of Nursing and from the Scottish government.
The guidance advises that hospitals should offer the option of arranging individual or shared cremation or burial of pregnancy remains or, if parents prefer, the option of taking the baby’s remains home and making private arrangements. You should be given time to decide.
However, actual practice varies a great deal and sadly, some hospitals may still treat the remains of an early loss as clinical waste unless you request otherwise. (This is not illegal in England and Wales, although Scottish guidance is different.)[/I]http://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/information/management-of-miscarriage/after-the-miscarriage/
Michelle! Demand to take your baby home.
That is how I understood things were always done in the past, just the same as dealing with afterbirth and removed organs or amputations.
I do agree that the patient should be asked.
Ah, this reminds me of when my sister tried to discover what happened to her still born son some 40 odd years ago. At the time, no photos were taken, no birth was registered, and she thinks her ex husband named him after himself. She was told at the time he’d be buried with an adult, at a nearby cemetery. So we made an appointment to view their registers from that era, but course couldn’t find any entry under sister’s married name.
She was traumatised at losing him (though she’d been aware some time before that he wasn’t moving) so didn’t ask questions, or find out more. Over the years he was just put to the back of her mind.
Another emotional performance from Kym Marsh last night.
I’m sure her performance will be recognised at the next soap awards. If she doesn’t win an award I’ll be extremely surprised.
By contrast - The garage fire! OMG this storyline is doing my head in. It’s pathetic - Andy’s pathetic. I wish he’d go - and Pheelan too!!!
There are countless comments on the internet…social media, references to newspaper articles, all saying the same thing! But as the Phelan actor has just signed for another year, it looks unfortunately as if we’re stuck with him. A lot of people have now switched off and don’t want to watch it anymore. I might, in future, record all my favourite soaps and FF through the scenes featuring the gay couples, the actors I don’t like, and might just end up with a few minutes worth watching.
As it stands, all my favourites…Emmerdale, Corrie, Casualty, Holby, are going the same way and I’m tired of it.
I could never be an actress.
How can one be so convincingly distraught night after night, and we don’t even know how long this is going on for yet.
I could never work myself up to that extent and then just be able to switch off like a light bulb and go home. It would affect me too much afterwards, I know it would.
It is a well known fact about stress in the workplace being harmful for us, so imagine how high her levels must be at the moment, do you think they really do just stop the emotions at the click of a finger?
This is it, some actors DO find it hard to switch off when filming stops, so it must affect them in ways.
When watching a believable bit of acting it amazes me how they throw themselves wholeheartedly into the role. I can watch something and forget I’m watching a tv show, as it seems so real.