Bob's Bits.

Thanks Bruce keeping a spare battery in the car is a good tip, but I didn’t have anything to prize the cover off the fobber, I had in fact just bought some batteries to replace the flat one.
I’ve never had a battery go in a fobber before, and this one can only be 4 years old.
It’s got a concealed key in the fobber that opens the drivers door but when you do, the alarm goes off.
Apparently there is a card reader in the steering column for when the fobber battery goes flat, although I knew about that, I didn’t know that you had to put your foot on the clutch while holding the fobber against the reader.

A fobber :thinking: ?

Yes, I wondered that. Maybe a Yorkshire thing ?? Bob is Yorkshire man.

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So the bush fires have destroyed 1200 Hectares of forest in Athens, that’s nothing compared to the 1350 Hectares that the Whitestone Solar farm will destroy of South Yorkshire Farmland.

Yes, you are right, Mr Foxy. And in Scotland too with the 12th fire in the Cairngorms.

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Sorry but that’s just not true!

The final project includes 691 hectares (1,707 acres) of solar areas and other above ground infrastructure, as well as 458 hectares (1,132 acres) of areas set aside for wildlife.

I said ‘Farmland’ Bruce. just because they purchase the land and set it aside for wildlife doesn’t make it ‘farmland’ does it.
And if you are going to split hairs, you might want to look up Tween Bridge Solar Farm also just up the road.

The paltry amount of power these solar farms produce in the UK doesn’t warrant the amount of land these and wind turbines take up and does’t justify the expense or the waste of land.
Just at the time when we will need extra power in the winter, the solar panels will only be getting 6 hours of daylight.

Isn’t farmland just a destroyed environment anyway? Surely the 458 hectares for wildlife is a better use than farmland?

If you want farmland then the Tween Bridge Solar Farm that you quote will provide not only power but enhanced grazing land (as has been shown in Australia.)

Farmland grows food and grazes cattle instead of destroying the environment shipping it thousands of miles and making us totally dependent on on other countries and especially the EU.
That’s not how solar farms work here in the UK Bruce. Not the ones that I pass. Security is a big problem in the UK because most residents of towns and villages don’t want them

Does anyone here have a daughter named Sparkle ?

The only thing I remember about England was the Fog.
Is one of the reasons Solar Farms point toward the moon
and Large cities is the light in the night sky?

I thought you said man made global warming was a myth? If that is the case why does it matter where food comes from?

You didn’t read my previous post did you Bruce… :018:
And the picture you posted with the sheep happily grazing under the solar panels has got nothing to do with farming. It’s to keep the grass short and save people having to clear the long grass.

Food being transported thousands of miles just goes to show that big business and the establishment don’t care about the environment, do as I say, not as I do. While we are switching from diesel and petrol engines to reduce pollution, the establishment are building extra runways at airports, fighting wars in far off lands, and transporting food and other goods thousands of miles. Does that sound like they care about the environment?
My main issues are with trying to make the UK more independent both in farming/food production and industry and creating more jobs. A healthy and wealthy society is not all about imported labour and saving a few bob on things that could be made here.
You usual answer of “the uk will never be self supporting” is defeatist, and does it mean we should just concede to big business and accept everything they make us do with their global monopolies.

I read every word.

That picture was from the solar farm web site that you promoted. Solar panels ensure better pasture because of condensation on the panels and sheep grazing to keep the grass short is what sheep normally do on farms. The panels also provide protection for the sheep from wind and rain, it turns out that they are a productive pairing.

https://www.ecoportal.net/en/solar-plant-with-sheep-graze-developed-change/20405/

Britain hasn’t been able to feed its population for well over a century.

So does that mean that we can’t do more to help ourselves Bruce?

Obviously made to look like solar farms are the best thing since sliced bread… :018:

Not so sure about that Mr Bruce. We lived on a farm with fresh meat, chickens, vegetables - we even had several milk cows !! And I’m still not over a century…

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All the Coal and Fossil fuels + mans warm fire harth, call it trillion have helped warm the place back up since the iceages. Enjoy the warm basking in the Sun. 7 billion lesser count of humans by 2075 is probably a proof of continued hu-mon existance in Earths embrace. Back to horse powered stuff, oxen farm workers, all good. Amish haditright till they started driving vans.

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Strange how when we had the London fog in the thirties, forties and fifties, with every house burning coal, dozens of coal and gas burning power stations and the massive pollution that the potterie ovens produced in the early 18th century we didn’t have the extreme weather and unprecedented heatwaves that we are experiencing now considering that hardly anyone burns coal, not even power stations, and the furnaces and pottery ovens have long since stood idle and been demolished…Could it possibly be the natural fluctuations of the climate?

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You were much smaller populated, didn’t drive 10’s of millions of vehicles 12,000 -200,000 + miles a year or take off & fly 150,000 Jets all over the world every day. + you still get the Fog. The Suns extreme output also adds to it.

Sure in a billion years (or something) the sun will swallow up the Earth.

Basically today’s lifestyle is screwed. But don’t worry ai will save the day. U are so screwed.

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But you didn’t produce enough for whole population.

A common estimate for a plant-based diet is around 0.25 to 0.5 acres per person per year, considering average yields and food waste. For a diet that includes animal products, the land requirement can be significantly higher, potentially ranging from 1 to 2 acres per person per year or more, depending on the consumption level of meat and dairy products.

Compromise on 1 acre per person, the UK needs 67 million acres of farmland to feed its population. The total UK is approximately 60million acres including the cities and towns. Do the maths.

They might well be. Not many power plants can support electricity generation and grazing animals.

Not many animals here:

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