Aren't you glad now that we left the EU?

Oi watch it.

I was sticking up for you, Muddy. :innocent:

@Muddy , of you think that then itā€™s a good job Boris didnā€™t really take us out ??
Donkeyman! :thinking::thinking:

@Harbal , Teach you to keep your nose out Harbie ??
Donkeyman! :+1::grin::+1:

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Do you really think so, DM? :slightly_smiling_face:

@Harbal , Not really, too much to hope for l think ?
Donkeyman! :frowning::frowning:

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I never get angry with our leaders, I canā€™t be arsed to lead so, why get ragged with anyone else who chooses to take up the mantle, you have to respect their ā€œMantle Healthā€. :grin:

I wouldnā€™t want to lead, either; I just want a quiet life. Mantel peace, so to speak.

Yep, summed up quite nicely.

If you think that you are mistaken .
We are out .

Boris is still in the process of ā€œtaking us outā€

That is what you think ,still there is always the EU Lite proposal .

The UK is not the only country with inflation, Muddy. I agree our economy is floundering - a little - but itā€™s still stronger than the eurozone countries. Here are the latest available numbers.

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Inflation is nothing to do with Brexit, its because of the lockdowns mainly and Putins invasion of Ukraine.

If anything Brexit enables us to control inflation far better than the Eurozone because we can control our own interest rates, VAT, corporation and personal taxation independently as well as valuation of our own currency. We also control, our own tarrifs.

The problem is we have a government that is following socialist tax policies and a head of the bank of England who wants to make things even more expensive by raising interest rates.

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Oh dear, oh dear shaking my head in total disbelief. You canā€™t be serious about this Muddy, surely? EU Lite would be even worse for the UK than attempting to re-enter the EU proper. We had virtually no say in what happened when we were members of that cartel, just imagine what it would be like if we had absolutely and totally NO say at all in what happens to us if we were members of EU Lite.

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So, various reasons, none of which is Brexit. How fortunate we are to have our own economic expert on the premises. :slightly_smiling_face:

Thats how it all started in the first place with the common market.

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Iā€™m not so sure about that, Bread. I believe much of todayā€™s inflation was started back in 2008 with the financial crash and all the central banks started playing fast and loose with quantitative easing (i.e. printing cash as fast as they could get it out of the doors) and doing so for far, far too long. Keeping interest rates at near zero for so long + QE has only exacerbated the situation and now most major economies are awash with money and itā€™s THAT + the interest rate rises that are causing the current round of inflation.

Your more than welcome to prove me wrong Harbal. Iā€™ve asked you this many times but all you can seem to muster is insults, slurs and stupid nonsense like the post you just wrote.

If you want to join in, feel free but your going about it all the wrong way.

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Sure, but shutting down supply chains has been a massive influence on prices of goods as the availability of them is scarce. Due also because manufacturing was shut down for about 2 years.

I agree about the QE but the biggest QE we have ever done was during the lockdowns when people got free money from the government, including 000ā€™s of Ā£Ā£Ā£ of bounce back loans, grants and eat-out-to-help-out incentives.

Putting interest rates up is sheer stupidity, we should be doing the opposite and extending our loan periods over a much longer time. I honestly do not recognise this government as being conservative. As a member of the tory party for as long as I can remember, I cancelled my membership in 2021 and will not renew it until they start cutting taxes and helping businesses.