@Percy_Vere , Don’t bovver wiv Brucy Percy !
Eez gotta chip on is shoulder !!
Donkeyman! 
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I agree. Does he detest Brits?
Perhaps he had an unhappy childhood in this country! 
Again that is just not true, Britain only had to pay for stuff received after the war ended and at very favourable terms it should be added. It took so long to pay off because Britain was broke despite half wits like Macmillan telling us that we had never had it so good.
So much of British history is just plain myth.
Classic, don’t attack the message, attack the messenger. Grow up children.
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Sorry but you’re wrong.
If I remember right it was actually the Aussies that renegotiated or reneged their deal, depending on your point of view … and payed back virtually nothing of their ‘lend lease’ which hardly got a scratch on it anyway , and dumped thousands of tonnes of jeeps and armoured vehicles in pits in your own outback. The Aussie government refused to cough up for reshipping it back to the States, or paying for it .
Whereas us Brits got left with convoys of ‘one careful owner’ but war soiled and badly dented and we coughed up.
And never ever tell a Brit their own history is so much myth when you’re the one rewriting British history.
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Whether that is true about Australia is neither here nor there but I was not wrong about the fact that Britain only had to pay for good received after the war ended.
I am a Brit too and I am not rewriting British history from Wikipedia:
In general, the aid was free, although some hardware (such as ships) were returned after the war. In return, the U.S. was given leases on army and naval bases in Allied territory during the war.
and
Value of materials supplied by the U.S. to its Allied nations[25] Country Millions of
US Dollars
Total 48,395.4
British Empire 31,387.1
Brazil 372.0
Soviet Union 10,982.1
Mexico 39.2
France 3,223.9
Chile 21.6
China 1,627.0
Peru 18.9
Netherlands 251.1
Colombia 8.3
Belgium 159.5
Ecuador 7.8
Greece 81.5
Uruguay 7.1
Norway 47.0
Cuba 6.6
Turkey 42.9
Bolivia 5.5
Yugoslavia 32.2
Venezuela 4.5
Saudi Arabia 19.0
Guatemala 2.6
Poland 12.5
Paraguay 2.0
Liberia 11.6
Dominican Republic 1.6
Iran 5.3
Haiti 1.4
Ethiopia 5.3
Nicaragua 0.9
Iceland 4.4
El Salvador 0.9
Iraq 0.9
Honduras 0.4
Czechoslovakia 0.6
Costa Rica 0.2
As I say America was Britain’s best friend despite all the squirming going on.
I’m not disputing that they supplied us with materials but to make it sound like they were ‘gifted’ as you are doing is factually incorrect.
None was free. The Americans even sold armaments to the Germans before they themselves got drawn in through Pearl Harbour.
The States enjoyed a very profitable economic boom both in the early days of the war (supplying anyone with the money to buy ) and in the immediate decades following it through reimbursement of their lend lease programme and other loans intended to help countries rebuild post-war.
Australia did renege or sensibly renegotiate their final bill with their ‘allies’.
They paid very little. It took the UK 50 years.
The ‘goods received’ as you call it that applied to the Brits were knackerd tanks, trucks and mangled metal that we had used during the war and so were, understandably, a little tatty.
When the US supplied us with them in the war they didn’t stipulate they’d take them all back if they were still in good condition, as in say, just a little straffed here and there …
It was a business agreement., simple as that, and after the war ended we settled up with America what we owed them for their help.
You’re now an Aussie … or you should feel like you are one if that is your home.
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That’s ex pats for ya.
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They never seem too enamoured of the place they left do they … which sounds perfectly sensible … else they’d never have felt the need to leave in the first place would they.
No problem with any leavers, they should rejoice in the brave new world, its when they snipe at the motherland that things get tricky.
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Only stayers have the right to snipe.
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Saying that America was Britain’s best friend and adding proof is hardly sniping. It’s you people that seem unable to understand that. Such delicate souls, which is sad really.
You sound very bitter Bruce .
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Ya reckon? No, really I don’t care that much one way or another. It’s a forum.
We are both right, Bruce. I’ve read the lease/lend link you provided and what you posted is true - in part. We returned everything that was in fair to good condition but had to pay for badly damaged/destroyed equipment.
I’ve also read up on the Anglo-American loan, which I wrongly thought was part of the lease/lend act. It is this that the UK finally paid off in 2006.
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Oh dear, that’s the end of this thread then. Britain didn’t stay in the EU so now you are disqualified from talking about The EU in any negative way. Oh, onward and upward.
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@Bruce … I don’t think Spitty meant it literally Bruce. You know he often speaketh with forked tongue and none of us understandeth him …
carry on, it’s a good thread. 
The diplomat said: “Let’s be honest we saw it with the vaccine and now with Ukraine. Britain outside the EU is more nimble and able to make decisions more quickly.
“With the coronavirus vaccine you [the UK] were able to get it agreed and rolled out weeks before the EU.
It is the same with this crisis. The UK saw the threat first and was starting to prepare sanctions and other actions before the rest of Europe.”**emphasised text*emphasised text
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I don’t know … at times like this I rather wish we (UK & EU) were on the same page, with common policy. But we probably are, so I’m not sure what this newspaper story refers to.
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That diplomat is perfectly correct, of course.
It’s a shame that so many of the Express readers, who are remoaners, keep trying to persuade us that we were wrong to leave the EU.
Surely, after all this time and with all the evidence to the contrary of their opinions, they should shut up now and just accept our democratic decision.
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