still waiting for an answer to my question on your opinion of the single shot measles vaccine Realist. I assume you have no grounds to object to that one as you cannot offer any evidence on why it should not be used.
Looks like weāll have a long wait Annie. 
He replied to my quiestion with 3 more of his own, but avoided answering my question all the same.
Realist, have your ānatural curesā got a remedy for bad temper?
I ask because you were quite unpleasant and sarcastic in your reply to Twink just now.
In answer to you points>
We live in a democracy and our own healthcare system gives us the choice on whether we accept medication, or not, so which party do you think would have the strength to enforce vaccinations & remain in power? I know that it is compulsory for all people in N. Korea to have the same haircut as their leaderā¦ but that is a dictatorship & I am sure we would all oppose that!
I am sure there is a place for natural medicines as well as Big Pharma ones, but it was the Big Pharma ones that have kept me alive for 30 years, with diabetes. Their medicines also cured my cancer 8 years agoā¦ so I know which I prefer. Unless of course you can produce actual proof that some natural substance has actually cured a stage 3 , aggressive small cell cancer!
Your debates donāt irk me, but peopleās replies appear to irk you, as you often fail to answer any questions they ask? If you canāt answer questions on the topic, then I consider that you have lost the debate!
You would probably be shocked to hear how many people are fed up of hearing your opinions, but my biggest problem is that you post what you choose to believe from the internet, whereas most of us realize that you can get different people, on the internet, to say completely different things on the same subjects.
Thanks to many of your posts, some people are now afraid to ask for health advice on the forum, so is it really necessary to do dozens of post saying virtually the same things?
This is the reason I suggested you find a proper debating society because, like you, they are just there attempting to show they are right!
Twink said: Quote:
"Thanks to many of your posts, some people are now afraid to ask for health advice on the forum, so is it really necessary to do dozens of post saying virtually the same things."
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I agree this is true, and itās totally wrong.
And heaven help anybody next winter if they dare to mention anything about having their flu jab! They will be leapt on quicker than we could blink.
Hi Annie
Your line of questioning here is entirely flawed Iām afraid.
It behoves a manufacturer of a vaccine to prove that :
- It works to an effective degree
- It does not harm human beings in the process
- It has conducted extensive unbiased independent testing of its vaccines
- Its results are peer reviewed by respected medical bodies.
One can not market and establish support for a vaccine on the pretext of :
āYou prove to me that it isnāt safeā
The manufacturer must themselves prove that it IS safe and must do so through rigorous extensive testing as above.
Your question is thus meaningless.
So, letās turn it around the way it SHOULD BE.
Can YOU demonstrate to us that the Single Measles Vaccine is safe and does not harm humans?
In doing so can you provide a link to the source material for the tests and research?
Of course I am confident that you canāt but hey ho.
Meanwhile in terms of the Single Measles Vaccine from India, they state the following:
"In the absence of compatibility studies, this medicinal
product must not be mixed with other medicinal products.
So the vaccine hasnāt been tested for compatibility with other products (not just other vaccines but medicinal products!)
āAlthough data on concomitant administration of measles vaccine and other vaccines are not available it is generally accepted that Measles vaccine may be administered at the same time as DPT, DT, TT, BCG and polio vaccine (OPV and IPV), Hepatitis-B, Haemophilus influenzae type b and yellow fever vaccine.ā
So they HAVENāT actually tested the vaccineās usage alongside other vaccines but regardless they do it anyway and have a āgeneral acceptanceā that itās ok !!!
Over to you
Look forward to your research
No, your question was meaningless. You could quite easily kill your child by giving it a vaccine just as it could be killed by not having a vaccine.
Your question is meaningless emotional rhetoric running alongside the health industry guilt trips and purposeful āCampaigns Of Fearā
Deal with the facts not emotional drivel.
Once again, please note this is NOT the debate section. If you want to debate a subject please start it in the correct section.
I take it from your responses that you have not done any research on the single Measles vaccine yourself. Itās clear that you cannot give an informed opinion on it although you give lots of views on other vaccines. So Iām assuming from all this that you have no evidence that there was any problem with the single shot and that (other than your general prejudice against all vaccines) itās just MMR you have strong objections to. Itās surprising that you have so much data on other vaccines and nothing on the stand alone measles vaccine.
Daughter took baby Rosie for her first mmr vaccine , the baby was well and happy. Within 12 hrs Rosie was screaming in pain as her little body came out in burn like welts . She was covered and very unwell for weeks. She became allergic to her bottle milk and had bad dioreahh for a long time , she was very unwell in and out of doctors . Doctors would not acknowledge it was the result of the vaccine . After months and months of treatment it was found that Rosie was allergic to the yolk of egg and other toxins which is in the vaccine . To this day she cant have egg . She has a very sensitive tummy .
It was at least 2 years before she was really well . My daughter has refused to allow her to have any more , she is too scared to take the chance . Doctors did say Rosie will carry some immunisation in her body due to the first mmr.
Hi
There are a range of views.
The consensus is that the presence of aluminium salts in the vaccine is so minute as to not cause any issues at all.
I agree with this analysis.
The Anti Vaxxers, who rely on false science have been slated.
Susan, that must have been an awful experience & I know a few children did have a reaction to the MMR jab. If you now know that she is allergic to eggs it may be a good idea to ask if other vaccines contain egg so that you can avoid them.
I know that flu jabs usually contain egg, but it is always worth asking if there is an alternative vaccine, before deciding not to have the jab.
I take it from the fact that you have provided absolutely so supporting evidence or research for the Single Measles vaccine that you have not done any research nor have any evidence. Itās clear therefore that you cannot give an informed opinion on it although you give lots of views on other vaccines. So Iām assuming from all this that you have no evidence that the single shot is safe, or indeed any safer than the combined MMR vaccine and that you have absolutely no idea how many people are harmed by the single shot vaccine nor how many killed by it.
Itās surprising that you have so much support for vaccines and yet have no research to show they are safe.
This is a new angle of discussion Swim but Iām happy to go with it.
Aluminium is highly toxic in most of its forms. People are unfortunately getting significant quantities of aluminium in their bodies on a daily basis, predominantly in the food they ingest and from underarm deodorants. It doesnāt really matter where it comes from, the fact remains that you want it OUT of your body. Aluminium goes straight to the brain and there is now much consensus that aluminium is linked to Alzheimers and other neurological conditions.
It wasnāt long ago that vaccine manufacturers were putting toxic Mercury in vaccines in the form of Thimerosal (50% Mercury).
One shudders to think what kind of person first conceived of the idea of putting toxic Mercury into vaccines but sadly thatās the kind of mentality we are dealing with. Thankfully there has now been enough ābad pressā to make vaccine manufacturers remove it. The point remains, this industry is out for profit not your health. They donāt care what harm they do.
I was asking for your opinion given that you are always so forthcoming on information about vaccines. I take you donāt have any research on the single shot measles vaccine as you keep coming back with the same deflecting response. Why not admit that you donāt know?
I take it you donāt have any research on the single measles vaccine in terms of safety, damage caused and fatalities caused as you keep neglecting to provide any data. Why not just admit that you donāt know whether it is safe or not?
Realist I havenāt done any research. I was asking for your opinion not for this series of ridiculous responses. I take it you donāt know because you keep asking me. I wouldnāt be asking you if I had the answers. If you donāt know anything about it then just admit it.
Annie youāre being childish and silly.
YOU clearly have no research or info on the vaccine you keep talking about. Yet YOU are pressing me for info.
When you have some evidence and data then by all means put it up. Meanwhile you are simply demonstrating that you are as clueless as everyone else, a pot calling the kettle black.
Let me ask you a simple Yes/No question
Is the Single Measles vaccine safe?
Yes/No/Donāt Know
Realist I have never said I have any research on the single measles vaccine. I was asking you, but you keep coming back with nonsense. Iāve had the single vaccine and it was safe for me. But I assume you have some data to prove itās safety or otherwise for the general population. If not then just admit you have no idea instead of deliberately misunderstanding my posts. Youāve been caught out it seems.
Neither have I said anything of the kind either.
So what exactly is your point?
Take this to another thread please. Mods have already asked.