Angela Rayner's lack of grammar

[Maree]

@Muddy

Unless someone is a grammar Nazi it’s not IMO that important
It’s her policies and leadership qualities that matter .
To be a leader you need to have the presence of a leader .
Still I suppose extensions could be useful if you want to ride naked though Coventry or such like .

If I do that I’m going to need some mighty long and thick extensions to cover all of me!

[Maree]

@Muddy

@Maree

And I have absolutely no intention of cutting it until the day I die. I get so fed up with the attitude that once you get old you should cut it off and have a safe old lady hair do

Long hair is ok but hair often gets thinner as you get older so you might not have the choice to have it long until you die .I don’t know anyone with safe little old lady hair dos that is an old fashioned attitude , Maree look about you how many little safe old lady hair dod do you see ? At the moment my own hair is longish past my shoulders BUT i am not proposing to lead the country what may be considered the Boudeca look and fools gullible men looks more like an escapee from St Trinians with that fringe .
Hair can be long but stylish but ultra long extensions look messy are so obviously fake and cause alopecia .
She looks IMO much better and younger with shorter hair

If mine goes thin I’ll get Rayner extensions
Or a wig!

It’s all a matter of preference really but I think she looks much more powerful and confident with her extensions, like Boudicca! And a bit timid and non-descript without them

[Muddy]

Do we want a leader who needs to hide behind her extensions ?

[LongDriver]

@Flowerpower

Trying to post a pic of Vicky!

[Percy_Vere]

@d00d

Two Jags Prescott, Diane Abbott etc … the Labour Party needs someone out front we can all relate to, laugh at occasionally: diversion tactics.

Add Jess Phillips to the list. She’s brilliantly eloquent even with her rather broad Brummie accent. Oh dear, I’ve just Googled her, she passed her 11+ and went to a Grammar School.

[Maree]

So leaving aside my hair fetish, I did a bit of digging on Hansard

“What is Hansard? Hansard is a “substantially verbatim” report of what is said in Parliament . Members’ words are recorded, and then edited to remove repetitions and obvious mistakes, albeit without taking away from the meaning of what is said.”

So, I get taking out constant repetition of Johnson’s ums and ders and ahs

But if it’s supposed to be a verbatim account of what was said then I think it should be recorded the way they said it, not with grammar corrected and sanitised

It’s easy to change the meaning and nuance with small alterations to the way people constructed what they said

Her speech and others may well contain non-standard constructions but I don’t think these should be defined as obvious errors and removed

If I wanted to look up what had been said, I’d want an accurate version of what was actually said, not a grammar corrected version

So I think she’s right to ask them not to correct her grammar

[LongDriver]

@Maree

So I think she’s right to ask them not to correct her grammar

Hansard is supposed to be a true account of what was said and by whom, so if it’s a corrected version it is not accurately correct.

[Besoeker]

I prefer grammar to be correct. I fail at times.

[The_Artful_Todger]

English was not my first language (!) and personally I couldn’t give a stuff.

[Maree]

@The_Artful_Todger

English was not my first language (!) and personally I couldn’t give a stuff.

Oi, that’s not proper, I wonder how Hansard would record that!

[The_Artful_Todger]

FWIW as a bit of a polyglot what I have found is that having read a book or watched TV in German or Russian or Yiddish or Hebrew not only do I sometimes dream in whatever language but the different grammatical constructs impose when I revert to English. As a kid at home we often switched between English and (usually) Yiddish “on the fly” which sometimes made for interesting primary school times. Wasn’t too bad though. Some other kids did the same between English and Irish Gaelic and a couple did the same between English and French.

[Percy_Vere]

@The_Artful_Todger

As a kid at home we often switched between English and (usually) Yiddish “on the fly” which sometimes made for interesting primary school times. Wasn’t too bad though. Some other kids did the same between English and Irish Gaelic and a couple did the same between English and French.

V and I still do this sometimes switching between English and Italian.

[Artangel]

She needs to start looking the part and reining in her potty mouth before she thinks of leading her party, or the country.
I can’t imagine her having a proper conversation with world leaders.

[The_Artful_Todger]

Potty mouth? Rayner? LOL! If you think she’s got a potty mouth you should get out more!

[Artangel]

I get out loads and probably more than you!!
I am referring to her position in parliament. She should have a bit more decorum… what’s the saying about you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear?

[The_Artful_Todger]

Decorum? In that snake pit? I think her behaviour is remarkably restrained.

[d00d]

The tory front benches like a bit of rough, allegedly.

[Donkeyman]

@ Artangel, As long as the truth comes out of her mouth, l couldnt
care less how potty it is !!
Donkeyman!

[David_P]

I recorded the minutes as St Barnabas’ church as you correctly stated and as I was taught in funnily enough grammar school. But the college professors and doctors in attendance were at pains to tell me I got it wrong. They said ‘St Barnaba’s’ Academics kept on about the Oxford apostrophe, whatever that is?

[Muddy]

Sounds like pretentious nonsense