The mink incident was a definite spanner in the mutation works. Just goes to show that we need to reassess our relationship with animals and respect them rather than exploit in the way that we have seen in some countries. It’s about time humans stopped exploiting animals for vanity, for cosmetics and for the novelty of eating something different or exotic. Humans should not be sharing their lives with wild animals as though they were other humans.
Only if you catch it Scot.
Out of a population of over 68 million, there are still 66 million who have not succumbed yet. And of those 66 million, only 60 thousand have so far passed away in the UK.
I intend to keep being one of those still free from the virus…
I think my odds are good.
Why take a headache tablet if you never have headaches?
So am I, once the top aged groups have been vaccinated we should see death rates fall and hospitals able to cope with the normal workload.
My sisters best friend is dying because her cancer treatment was delayed by C19,
My sister is in agony because her knee replacements have been delayed for over a year.
I have had to pay hundreds of pounds for private treatment out of my small savings because my long wait for NHS treatment was resulting in a poor quality of life and a deterioration of my health .
My main concern is the slow production of vaccine will mean we have long waits for supplies and to be vaccinated.
Annie that is my understanding too.
Now the virus is with us, like many others it will be almost impossible to eradicate and as the scientists say ‘if it is anywhere it is everywhere’
It will take years to vaccinate the world population and this will be hampered by reservoirs of virus in some areas where a suspicions population refuses vaccination, we saw this with the outbreak of Ebola in West Africa.
While the vaccine should prevent severe illness and death in many it is not a ‘cure all’ .
We don’t yet know if the vaccine can prevent transmission, if it doesn’t those who are relying on herd immunity will remain susceptible.
I am thinking of other people as well myself OGF. I will be 83 tomorrow so my chances of survival would not be very high. I bet there are many people in hospital and bereaved families who wish there had been a vaccine earlier.
I’m not trying to talk you out of having the vaccine Scot, but everyone’s circumstances are different, and being an athlete for the best part of my adult life I would not risk putting an unknown substance into my body.
I took Mrs Fox for the flu jab last week, I would never have the flu jab myself, but I’m not responsible for Mrs Fox’s health, and if she feels less anxious having had the jab, I’m happy that she feels it has done her good.
You say that you are thinking of other people, well I would suggest that you consider your own health first and don’t worry about me…
That’s assuming that you caught the virus Scot, and assuming you would need medical care following the infection, and after all, it’s their job, and you have been paying their wages for the last eighty years…
As a past member of a moorland search and rescue team, I did the job because I love the mountains, and if I could save a life or help someone in distress it gave me a good reason to venture out doing what I loved. It mattered not to me how they had arrived at the dreadful situation that they had found themselves in, but I considered that it was my job to put my life on the line to go and try to help them.
Before I joined the team, and after I left the team, I would still go out and put my life on the line in the interests of enjoyment and not to save a poor soul, but in the future that same team might be coming for me, and I will always applaud the work that they do. And it’s the same with our fantastic medical personnel.
I have no wish to burden either, and I will do the best I can to avoid catching the virus or getting into difficulty on that wild windswept moor, but 2008 was the last time I had the flu, so I have managed to avoid catching that particular virus for 12 years without the need to resort to a vaccine. Even though flu has done the rounds every year since 2008. Mrs Fox has also avoided catching the flu since 2008 despite not having had the vaccine. But with help from the BBC and the rest of the media she has had the fear of God put on her this year, and so decided to have the flu vaccine…So far neither of us have any side effects…Her from the vaccine, and me from the flu…
I think that we’re going to see a “No Jab” =“No Entry” mandate.
I read, somewhere that Care Homes have already made such a promise (not bad after the publicity about them signing off DNR boxes, illegally).
The showing of some sort of “I’ve had the Jab” document is on the cards, for other facilities.
In any case, after about 90% of the pop has been injected, maybe there’ll be no way the other 10% could catch it?
:shock:
As an 84 year old, I think I’m likely to be “on the urgent list” but, having seen the way our Civil Servants roll things out, I’m not expecting this to happen any time soon.
This thread started off saying ‘wonderful news’…it wasn’t long before it all went downhill. :-(…I prefer to put My trust in the Scientists/Experts…I’ll let all You young uns know how I am after I get vaccinated…after all…The whole World is watching
You’re right there Ted. On the lunchtime news today they were talking about having a smartphone app so you can show that you’ve had your jabs. “Great”, I said to V, “What about those of us that don’t have smartphones? What will we have to do to prove we’ve had the jabs?”
My grandmother took an aspirin very morning, “Just in case she got a headache”. Many years after her death at 90 something they discovered how beneficial this was.
This may be true but it is the first approval of several vaccines that are nearing the end of the trial stage. Thee are many technologies being used so the next approval may be of a more effective and easier to store vaccine which kills the virus.
Who knows? this is just the beginning, might not even be the end of the beginning.
that is my understanding too.
