Woman mauled to death by 8 dogs in Caterham

Not sure what the details are but she was walking 8 dogs… unclear whether they were hers or she was offering some sort of dog walking services…

What a terrible thing to happen . Tragic

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Such a terrible thing to happen. Tragic.

The ITV News Report I saw suggested the dogs did not belong to the woman who was killed while walking them - the report said the dogs were in custody and the owners of the dogs had been identified and notified, so I presumed the young woman who was killed was a dog-walker.

It must be difficult for one person to control 8 dogs - especially if the dogs aren’t your own and you don’t have complete control of them.
I live near a popular dog walk, accessed by a stile and footpath across fields and I often see a dog-walker pass my house with 4 or 5 dogs on leashes - if one of them starts misbehaving and having a go at another dog who is passing by, the other dogs will all react in different ways and mill about while the dog-walker struggles to calm the aggressive dog down and control all the other dogs at the same time.

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The more I read about the tragic events ending with the death of the young lady dog walker the more I am sad I realise only needs one tooth snagging an artery and its fatal easily- that does not need to be a very big dog. Heart breaking doing a job the young lady obviously loved as dog walkers do.

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This stunned me because I was brought up very close to this beauty spot and would often go there .

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The breed of the dog must also be considered . People seem to like potentially dangerous dogs I suspect these were not lapdogs.One at least was an eleven stone Leonberger but all dogs are descended from wolves .

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One of the police statements says this; After seizing the animals, the police say none of them were from banned breads and that they included a Leonberger and two Daschunds…

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True but even dogs like collies can turn and attack when in a pack situation .
Actually dachshunds are snappy little dogs they are just small
Amazingly very dangerous dogs are inexplicably NOT on the banned list which iMO should be revised -( there are only four breeds on it )
American bull terriers , oversized Staffordshire Bulls and the huge wolf dogs breeds that people seem to like .

When you read what facts have been published it sounds like a tragic accident a set of circumstances and events that could all individually have come to “nothing” and yet put together turned into this heart-breaking outcome.

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I used to live in Buenos Aires Argentina and there it is quite common to see dog walkers with numerous dogs on the streets .

Oh I am not saying whatever the size of the dog they cannot bite especially if over stimulated/scared etc. This tragedy seems to be a set of events that ended in this terrible fatality, if one thing had changed slightly would we be discussing this at all.?

In lots of cases its people not understanding the dog breed not the dog not understanding its breed. I have walked through parks etc and come across dog walkers with leads and not a dog in sight/hearing others who pull up and let 1 or more dogs out of a vans/cars and then go sit in the passenger seat reading a paper or napping 999999 times out a 100000 nothing happens but that once sadness

I have never seen that dog walkers usually never allow the dogs off the lead for fear of losing them .

I would cross the road to avoid a Staffy type dog.
Their ancestors were bred for bull baiting a blood sport involving pitting a bull against a dog.
They have latent aggression bred into them.
In the wrong hands Staffs can become a killing machines with massive jaws , sadly imo Staffs and those great big Staffordshire bullies with docked ears often but not always attract the wrong sort of person.
Imported docked Bullies command a high price , It’s cruel and it’s only done to make them look ferocious ….as if they didn’t look scary enough already.

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In my experience it’s some of the idiot owners.
A few years back an unleashed dog took an apparent dislike to by son, bared it’s teeth and started snarling, we were essentially cornered, I moved between it and him.
Both the dog’s owners managed to grab the dog after what seemed like an age and rebuked it by repeatedly pelting it on the head and back with a tennis ball.
Some people shouldn’t be trusted to own a hampster let alone a dog!

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I have been a Staffordshire Bull Terrier person since mid 1970’s as a child when the were not common as such over the years. I have seen the public and media responses to my beloved breed and I have long been of the opinion lots of people do not deserve to share their lives with my beloved breed. .

Staffie which are sweet but strong dogs have been crossed and bred and are now much bigger .
They are really pit bulls .
Pit bulls are not so much a breed as a type .
What amazes me is that pit bulls ( who can be loyal and loving dogs ) are banned but American bulldogs which are like pit bulls but bigger and oversized staffies are not .

There are lots of dogs that are potentially dangerous all dogs are potentially dangerous to small children . I cringe when I see idiots taking pictures of their babies with dogs .

Many are imported from Europe this IMO should be stopped immediately.

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Totally agree !

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I agree these powerful breeds need responsible owners.
In the wrong hands they are dangerous .

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They should just ban the sale and import of these violent breeds. So existing owners would keep theirs but would have to prove sterilisation as part of the deal. All dogs can be aggressive but as others have said some breeds have been created by humans to be killing machines. It’s not like a chihuahua or corgi is in the same class as a pitbull.

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