well i tried 10,
now iv just returned to 7,
windows 10 is designed for smart phones in my opinion,
and as i dont do mobile phones,windows 7 is ok for me
Win 10
I have had mixed success with Win 10. I first updated a Fujitsu laptop from 8, and it all worked fine. The boot time was quite slow, but I got rid of all the apps I didn’t want, and changed some settings plus disabled some unwanted start up items, and it settled down OK. There are some good features, but like
all things new, it takes some time to familiarise. That was the good bit. I then updated another Novatech laptop from 7 Pro, and it worked , but with a boot time in excess of 3 minutes. After some tweaking, The boot time reduced to the same as before, but that’s only OK if you know how to do it. Then a couple of days ago, when I shut down, Windows was installing some updates, so I let it run and auto shut down. At the next power up, all I got was a black screen with a flashing cursor in the top right hand corner. The web is awash with reports of this, and to date I have not been able to restore it to any working order. It will not run the Original Win 7 CD, reporting various errors, corrupted or missing files. Right now I have an expensive black plastic doorstop, as that’s about all it’s fit for.
I have not contacted Microsoft yet, but will do so when I have a couple of hours spare. One thinG Ihave learned is that if you Install 10, you can only revert back to your previous OS once.
If you install 10 a second time, you cannot revert back. You would need to reinstall from the original CD
I think that is correct!! I first installed Win 10 on my new notebook where the installation went all right although I don’t like the new Edge browser as it seems dumbed down and touchscreen orientated. I still use Internet Explorer there.
It was only after that had gone all right for some weeks that I decided to risk my desktop PC when the Microsoft " invitation " arrived. However that one, although also a Windows 8.1, has a much more complicated set of programs on it including some C++ programming but all was working reasonably previously.
However the installation did not go well and problems started with an update the previous night which failed to install and caused problems shutting down. Then the installation gave the " this is taking longer than usual message " and then when it said it was ready to start the screen started flashing and I was left with a totally inoperative computer!!!:mad: The screen was flashing and the the Mouse pointer was unrecognised. The only thing that worked was to get Task Manager in with a Ctrl/Alt/Del which showed that the CPU was being cyclically overloaded which coincided with the the screen flashing and a process " Host Process for Setting Synchronisation " seemed to be overloading the computer.
Anyway the Microsoft helpline were useless and eventually, as the computers are on PC World maintenance agreements, I phoned them. They said they had had many similar problems and took me through the process for rolling back to Windows 8.1 - ( which you can only do for a month after installation ).
Obviously I had done all the backups with external discs etc before starting any of this and I have in the past always avoided Operating System updates the reasons you say until it was time go get a new physical PC with the new version pre installed. Both have up to date Norton so the Firewall settings seem not to be the cause as I now gather that process is Firewall related or was blocked by the Firewall.
So now I have a Windows 10 notebook and a Windows 8.1 desktop and a lower opinion of Microsoft!
My Son changed his home pc to W10 Saturday, but I am still not doing it.
I’m running Windows 7 Pro and perfectly happy with it. I have read about too many issues with Win 10, installing and its dubious conditions it comes with. So to save myself the tears, I’m sticking with Win 7, but slowly migrating towards Linux which has none of the baggage which comes from Microsoft.
I’ve been running W10 on 2 ex-W8 PCs since 29/7 with no major problems.
I have issues with File History not working properly and fuzzy fonts.
I have had issues with MS Money not working and incompatible AV programs, all resolved.
Edge is not worth using until it permits add-ons so I still use IE, which occasionally freezes for certain sites.
So far, so good …
Just bought an HP lappie for my sister. We tried setting it up here at my place but she simply cannot remember any email addresses, so we can get the AV running.
She has to locate paperwork from our library computer class so she has an active (unless they’s stopped it cos she forgot the password and never used it!) one. She has a different one (her daughter’s) for FB and a new one for Google, but that too proved difficult. She does want to use FB on this laptop.
And annoyingly, none of the Sainsburys stores had any in stock. We could have used her discount card. I had to pay full price, in PC World, but don’t mind.
Oh, back to OP, it has W10!
I wasn’t going to upgrade my laptop to windows 10, but then I had no choice. I spilt a drink on my laptop! bye bye laptop.
Went and bought a new one, Windows 10 already installed on it. It does remind me a bit of Windows 7, but I am still trying to sort things out. Some things I still can’t figure but no doubt with time…lol
This is a must-read:
How to reclaim your privacy in Windows 10, piece by piece
Read and action ASAP post-upgrade.
:shock: Did anyone see this in the papers yesterday?
Windows 10 will automatically download on to Windows 7 or 8 PCs
Company to make Windows 10 a ‘recommended update’ next year, meaning those running updates will have it downloaded and will be prompted to install
:shock: so I’ll get it automatically even though I don’t want it… and though I can decline the installation after the download … it will still sit on my hard drive gobbling up between 3 and 6G of space?
Are you sure the Windows 10 files haven’t downloaded already?
There are ways to stop the W.10 download if they haven’t but it will mean looking at what Windows Update wants to download, rather than just letting updates download and install automatically. Some updates will need refusing.
For instance, I have Windows 8.1 and don’t want to download Windows 10. The updates to look out for are KB3035583 and KB2976978. These get un-ticked and hidden, hence they are not installed. Subsequently, the Windows 10 files will not be downloaded.
Those on Windows 7 would need to do the same with updates KB3035583, KB2952664, and KB3021917.
Choosing to un-tick and also hide the updates may be a permanent answer but it’s best to look out for these updates at each Windows Update time to make sure they don’t download. Much more can be read about this here:
[U]http://www.windowscentral.com/how-prevent-windows-10-upgrade-files-downloading-pc[/U]
Try not to get too upset with any lost disk space. Most computers have plenty of it and the files will do no harm by just sitting there.
Thanks for that … you explained it very well for a novice to get their head around.
I’ll still need a lie down to recover after reading the link. :shock:
I’ve only got 12G left on one of my drives and don’t want it stuffed up with something I don’t want.
I think it’s a flaming cheek , I really do.
Just a suggestion. It can seem unthinkable to use anything other than a Microsoft system but the alternatives can be surprisingly good these days.
Not liking Windows 10 very much led me to trying one or two Linux operating systems. Something I hadn’t done for a few years. I thought Linux Mint 17.2 particularly good. Comes with Firefox, Thunderbird, a photo editing program, Libre Office, a media player and a whole lot of other programs all pre-installed. Almost ready to use straight out of the box.
If you all you do on the computer is browse the Internet, use e-mail, edit photos and listen to music, then Linux can be a good alternative to Windows. It falls down a bit when it comes to games but other than that, Linux Mint ain’t half bad.
I read that some people chose to buy new computers with a Linux OS installed rather than a Windows one.
All platforms (operating systems) can have their problems of course but in my opinion, Linux is worth considering if upset with the way Microsoft is going.
I’ve sat and read up. OMG http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/scared-smiley-emoticon.gif
Tis all beyond my measly computer skills. I don’t want the download and I’ll have to unload to an external to make space. Just looked, I’m down to about 8G.
I’ll have to hope I’m alert and bright eyed when it arrives and don’t accidentally click OK and install the download I’m not a happy pig.
Thanks for nothing Microsoft … you dollar hungry bully.
The Windows 10 upgrade is free at the moment, so no parting with cash is involved. I think there could be a money-saving or streamlining motive for wanting everyone on the same OS. It must be a lot easier to maintain a single OS than it is to maintain a few of them.
Microsoft keep tabs on how the operating system is used more than was done with previous operating systems.
Some people call this harmless information gathering while others call Windows 10 ‘spyware’ and immediately set about disabling parts of it. I’m not sure either way but I’ll be keeping Windows 8.1 for a while because of a few problems I had with W.10 when it first came out.
I’ll probably give it another go in a few months. I’m in no hurry.
When I got my new laptop a few months back, it had W8 on it.
I was so eager to have W10 that was installed within a short time.
We all make mistakes and I’m sorry, as the song goes.
With W10 I will not load some of my old games, and I still can’t easily my mail.
It does not seem possible to go back to W8, so I am stumped.
Maybe I should look at Linux. But will this be a new learning curve or is it that easy to get into?
Following my last post, if I install Linex over W 10, if all goes wrong, will I be able to revert back to W10?
Also would W10 interfere with Linex?
You wouldn’t be able to install Linux over the top of Windows 10 and then revert to Windows 10 if you didn’t like it. You would have to reinstall a Windows operating system over the top of Linux to get back, then reinstall all of your Windows programs and games.
However, it is possible to install Linux in a ‘dual-boot’ arrangement. This is where you are given the choice of which operating system to use as the computer starts up. Many people do this and there is no shortage of advice to be found on how to set up this arrangement (search for: ‘linux windows dual boot’).
I say this because although I have set this up in the past, I haven’t done so for a long time and I don’t want to give a procedure that might not be correct for the present time. Also, one forgets. Without having another go, I couldn’t give the precise steps.
I have Linux Mint 17.2 Set up on a spare computer and it is the only operating system installed, so haven’t had to set up a dual-boot arrangement. Linux does have a learning curve the same as any other platform. It doesn’t take too much learning though and there is always plenty of online help available. The best thing to do would be to join a Linux forum, tell them you are inexperienced and the forum members will fall over themselves to help you through the basics.
Regarding reverting to Windows 8.1 from Windows 10, this should be possible but I haven’t needed to use the procedure.
One thing many people do is to make a disk image of the entire hard disk (includes the OS, programs, files, settings) before upgrading, or sometimes before making any changes to the computer. I did this before upgrading to Windows 10. When I decided I didn’t particularly like the new OS. it was possible to revert back to the Windows 8.1 system by using the previously made disk image.
I appreciate this isn’t much help to you now but perhaps bear it in mind as something you could do on future occasions. So your OS is on Windows 10 and you want to go back to Windows 8.1? How long has Windows 10 been installed? If it has been less than 30 days, it should be possible to use the method described here:
http://www.howtogeek.com/220723/how-to-uninstall-windows-10-and-downgrade-to-windows-7-or-8.1/
If it has been longer than a month, a clean installation of the Windows 8.1 OS and all programs will be necessary.
I’m not sure if, when a computer is upgraded to Windows 10, the partition computers use for going back to the ‘factory settings’ (takes the computer back to the state it was in when you first bought it) get updated to Windows 10. If not, you might be able to get back to Windows 8 using that, then update everything as necessary.
Whatever way you use to get back to Windows 8, you would have to be careful to refuse the Windows 10 upgrade when it is offered.
Many people like windows 10 and now that you have it on the computer, the easiest and perhaps best course would be to get used to using it. It is true some games that played OK on Windows 8.1 will not play on Windows 10. This is just due to factors beyond our control.
The only options are to look for an updated version of the game or resign yourself to the fact it is now out of date for the operating system it is running on. I suppose you’d have to ask yourself how important it is to have the game and is it worth the uncertainty and/or hassle of going back to Windows 8.1.
Thanks Mart for all that it is very helpful.
I expect as time passes, W10 problems will get sorted.
This has happened as I feel sure you know, with previous widows OS.
I might put Linex on my older laptop and see how it goes.
The present ASUS laptop I purchased in July this year, just days from when W10 was released.
So keen to get it. (Fool).
Yes, if you have spare computer to put Linux on, that’s ideal.
I read that there’s going to be a major update for Windows 10 soon, it hopefully will make it more to your liking.