Subtle.
Er, you pay towards the policing, to the cleaning up of the streets after the thousands leave their litter, part of your TV licence pays towards the rights to broadcast matches etc etc etc. And for what? Some weird enjoyment of watching groups of adults wasting their own and everyone else’s time by kicking a ball around and being given huge/obscene amounts of money to do so.
Perhaps equally as useless as what the RF contribute, so why not call for the abolition of football too? It’d also decrease congestion which happens on a regular basis on match days.
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So where are your figures to debunk this, some rubbishy left wing tabloid? You seem very strong on opinion but not much on evidence?
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How can one give figures when the financial dealings of the RF are not open to public scrutiny ?
A rough estimate
The monarchy costs the taxpayer at least £345m a year. Compare that to similar but elected heads presidents Ie budget for the Irish president is around £4m a year.
I pay for policing anyway through my council tax
The BBC provides far more than football matches so that is a spurious excuse
All policing costs for football matches are covered by the Special Polices Services rules which all clubs pay in full. Ie they pay for the police presence in the stadium and outside on their land .
Unlike the RF
IN 1971 the MPS voted to join the common market the people were not given the option to vote yes or no
In 1975 we were given a choice to stay in or op out we chose to stay in.
My point was that we never voted to join we were not given the choice.
Stop twisting the facts.
The night the Commons voted to take Britain into the common market - The New European
If we go back to the original video, what I took away was not so much a call to abolish the royal family but a challenge to continuing it as it is. The principle challenge was one of deference. Why, simply from birth, should one family be deemed on a higher plain than everyone else? Why do the armed services swear allegiance to one person rather than, for example, the whole country or the constitution of the country?
It seems highly unrealistic to expect the removal of the royal family in the UK. The support for the core family is high. There is a strong case for them providing a lot for the country - not just tourist income but a focal point for what the country is and for many a strong sense of identity of what it is to be British.
It does, however, seem realistic to ask whether the current model is right and suitable today. 23 royal residents seems a lot. Grace and favour sounds like hangers on. Building a new ship seems wasteful. Shrinking a bit of what the royal family encompasses may well be the right thing to do. Stripping out a chunk of the out-dated pomp and pish (order of the garter, wtf?) would be good - without losing the sense of occasion when needed. And dropping this undeserved reverence and replacing it with simple respect surely is 21st century?
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I find all this fawning and undeserved deference cringeworthy to say the least .
( I have met the Queen and she was charming so its not personal )
Most of the people who were interviewed ( after camping out to see the queens funeral or coming from Australia to do so ) give IMO very embarrassing gushing comments worthy of a medieval serf .
Surprisingly many of these came from countries where feudalism and caste still runs high and presumably had come to the U.K. to get away from all that .
The institution of the monarchy is basically deference towards inheritance, inequality and privilege.
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Yes, he quite impressed me with what he actually said because it
was all true. I have always been a monarchist but of late I have wondered more and more why?
They are completely superfluous to our needs.
If we want to respect someone let it be someone who has earned
our respect. What has any one of them done to earn our respect?
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Perhaps it’s because he’s the King of Australia where there is no inheritance tax or death duties.
You don’t earn respect GhF, you should respect everyone, until they give you a reason not to respect them.
I do but why should I respect the King any more than my kind-hearted neighbour? Who is about the same age? Or any of the RF? Because they dress in expensive clothes and ride around in chauffer-driven cars paid for by us?
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Is that why you don’t respect them GhF because they have more than you ?
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That old chestnut -didn’t you see the words paid for by us ?
Tell us OGF
What does the RF DO for the ordinary British citizen ?
You have basically repeated what I said so there couldn’t be many facts twisted.
We actually need less royals but still keep the monachy.
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Yes okay an oversight, bloody shoot me! but consider this:-
Why are we the baby boomers?
Is it because the government paid, or rewarded people to have kids to replace the tragic loss of our young soldiers during the war.
And also consider this:-
As those ‘Baby Boomers’ became of working age this country had never had it so good. We trained engineers (I was one) we trained electricians, joiners, bricklayers, miners, plumbers, doctors, nurses, and an army of manufacturing people who built motor vehicles, ships, houses, produced steel, farmed the land, and fished our waters…etc…
Those ‘Baby Boomers’ gave the UK the wealth that it now basks in…
But what’s happened since…?
A new wave of young folk who are now sent to university until they are at least 21, then they go swanning off around Europe or the world, paid for by the remainder of the wealth from the ‘Baby Boomers’ (the bank of Mam and Dad) They are over qualified for most jobs, and sit on their arses all day playing on their phones. They are so well educated that they challenge the old ways (which gave them the comfy life they now enjoy) while the country has turned into a pile of dung!
Well I’ll be leaving it soon, and I can hand it over to the next generation in reasonably good order, but unless those young academics and protesters are going to get their fingers out, they are going to have a rude awakening and getting rid of the monarchy is not going to help the lazy set of wasters taking over.
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Ouch! Breathe, Foxy…mind the blood pressure 
Didn’t you see the coverage of Wales yesterday. Why not ask some of the people who turned out to see the Prince and Princess of Wales. The national news publishes the scandals the local news covers the good they do. I’d prefer the national news to cover in greater depth what the local news covers:
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You really seem to resent young people OGF .
These are my children ( hard working never unemployed paid back their student loans ) and their children my grandchildren you are including in you latter day Alf Garnett generalisations.
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