I do have days when I don’t eat meat but my diet is mainly comprised of meat, I have nothing against people whose diet is vegan. Each to their own, but I don’t go into supermarkets and pour vegan friendly milk on the floor or harangue buyers of vegan produce.
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Yes, that’s just silly doing that…wasteful and annoying for other customers.
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Hi
What does organic mean, does it mean suitable for vegans and vegetarians in relation to fruit and vegetables.
Here in the UK we have very strict rules about labelling foods.
Even so, we sell organic and vegetarian food , including vegetables and vegetarian weighing thousands of tons more than we either produce or import.
All food is organic by definition.
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Im vegetarian too. Since I was 15 
It is so nice to meet you
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Me too, and my kids and grandkids, some strictly vegan.
Hi and welcome, HelenP ! And I appreciate your status as a vegan. For me it is somewhat different. I have travelled extensively mostly with my job. and the kind of food has been diverse and often without a choice. For example I was on a project in Central Turkey for some weeks and lunch was the same - lamb stew. No choice other than going hungry. And there were the opposites like Georgia (USA) - not for you but the alligator steak was excellent…
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There are good points on this thread about eating less meat and being considerate of animal welfare if you do eat meat or dairy products. I’d like to add a couple of thoughts on this theme.
First, if you consume dairy products then you should consider eating veal (pink veal obviously and not the white veal that is produced through terrible animal welfare). Male cattle born in dairy herds (obviously breeding is essential to milk production) are often disposed of soon after birth - and binned. It is better to have these raised to an age suitable for veal - but that will only happen regularly if the demand for veal increases.
Second, if you consume meat then you should eat more than just the prime cuts. Consider other cuts - cheeks, skirt, tail - just learn different cooking techniques to deal with these often tougher meats. And consider offal. This often goes to waste or to pet food, If an animal has been well raised, well cared for and humanely slaughtered then maybe acknowledge all that effort by eating as much as is consumable.
I’d like to emphasise that both these suggestions should support eating less meat and buying meat from suppliers who value animal welfare.
Even if I had no interest at all in animal welfare I couldn’t eat the flesh of a living thing’s dead body, the idea really makes me feel quite nauseous. I appreciate that people are vegetarians for different reasons but that is my main one.
I eat meat because I like the taste of meat. Somethings I only eat meat and somethings I don’t have meat.
Some of the arguments coming from vegans are using are ridiculous and rare. Common sense (which is a rare commodity these days), why would anyone supposedly abuse a product they are saling?
I humans had not started eating meat. We would still be grazing on the grass on the savannah/Sahara.
Humans have gotten rid of their second stomach (appendix) because it is no longer required.
Just like everything else, you can be anything you want as long as it does not interfere with other people’s lives.
Spot on, that man !
Fair enough. That’s your choice. But what if you had no choice like when I was in Turkey? Same for me in Taiwan and various other places.
Butchering techniques too. These cheap cuts, like Onglet, need to be prepared by someone who knows what they are doing, then cooked hot and fast.
Very true and a good point. I’ve noticed that in France the cuts of meat are not the same as UK / US. And here they tend not to hang meat. This often means the only way to order a steak is very rare, or saignant (bloody).
Untrue. Even in the most isolated places I have always been able to find rice, vegetables, potatoes and beans.
I’m afraid it is true. Have you been to Kavseri ?
Things are improving in terms of availability of vegetarian and even vegan dishes or foods. Twenty years ago in France if you said you were vegetarian then you might be served a chicken dish or a ham dish. They were seen as not really proper meats so suitable for a vegetarian. But nowadays most restaurant menus will offer a vegetarian option. Sometimes. Maybe just a salad.
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Yes, I agree and I am not averse to vegetarian/vegan. As a Scotsman we regularly had porridge for breakfast. And I quite like to have a salad for lunch. But we enjoy variety with our food we keep it balanced. My dear wife makes sure of that.
You might be able to find them but can you afford them?
One of the reasons for the poor health of aborigines is that healthy food as mentioned is too expensive in remote areas and they have lost the skills to find bush tucker. They have a really poor diet of highly processed cheap food leading to absurdly high cases of diabetes, renal failure, coronary heart disease and rheumatic heart disease. Their life expectancy is approximately 8 years shorter than the non indigenous population
some people cannot be 100% vegetarian for health reasons. I tried a number of times to be veggie and vegan but with my food allergies/ intolerance I’m pretty limited and couldn’t find a balanced diet. I’ve tried to cut down on meat, pescatarian options, eat meat once a week. However, I seem to need meat otherwise it negatively affects my mood and cognition. I wanted to give up for ethical reasons, because I find the meat industry cruel and shocking. But now I just try to source meat that has been as ethically reared as possible. I won’t eat farmed fish etc. I avoid any cheaply reared chicken. I’ve given up trying to be veggie, my meat alternatives are so limited. Eating out is already a nightmare because I have to check for gluten contamination. Veggie options always seem to have either gluten or nuts or both. In supermarkets there is the Kirsty’s brand which has addressed this gap, but their varieties aren’t always widely available. Meat and fish are just very nutritious and like other animals, we are designed to eat them. We just weren’t designed to buy them mass produced in a cruel factory farm.