I think not Lincs, otherwise we will be diverging from the O/P and apart from that, we have done Brexit to death.
If you think my post is ‘ranting from the deluded’ thanks for your honesty.
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This is actually not true Bob - because it’s ok to ostracise people who harbour hateful opinions or support those who spout hatefulness.
It’s the same reason why we have a zero tolerance policy on people airing any kind of bigotry, especially about those who just happen to be born a different way (i.e, because of something they have little or no control over) - because it’s much harder to ignore the opinions of kind decent people, than it is to ignore those who spout hate, and what ends up happening is decent people just leave the forum because it simply isn’t easy to tolerate hateful opinions (as it is to ‘tolerate’ opinions centred around trying to bring the world closer together).
Our actions, our opinions, and the people we support directly reflect on us as people.
I have faith in you Bob, one day you will realise Trump and those like him are a scourge on the planet and our species - they have no place in the future of humanity, just the destruction of it.
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Am thinking the swimmers around the Crown are nervous about the Jeffery!
Probably more intrigue with others also messed with it! Bermuda isn’t so
far away from Sin Island or off of them island tales!
Azz considering how polluted it is you would expect the government to fully fund healthcare, but they don’t. With so much pollution I’m not sure how organic local produce would be. They do seem to be trying to improve things. But I am not sure how your 800m total was worked out. You can’t blame the Brits for this I’m afraid.
When I see 360-degree pictures of the Whitehouse, is it time to move DC out of DC and into the country for privacy and security too. Most likely Mid USA for practical purposes Not $$$$$'s…
This will shake up the Big Dollar fats sitting in the DC capital neighborhood ! Sure its time to shut down
The contribution channel of the big guys funds and limit the individuals to 10’s of instead of $$$Millions of.
Whatabout to the middle of Greenland or Iceland? He doesn’t seem to know the difference.
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Its Wednesday’s another Mid-Week Free Time Day Here Future. MWD not WW3 !
I Know P, crazy a word & I got nothing. The Leo once told me it’s what they do that I get them for.
You know I’m concentrating on what the swinging _ _ _ _'s are doing! I mean how many
kids can a Monk’e have?
I can’t say how many pro-Trump posts I may have read. Off-hand I remember two or three but that’s not the point since the first paragraph of my last post didn’t specifically refer to this forum. However, my second paragraph did, while indicating experiences from other sites where that ratio, and the tonality, differed putting people off. Birds of a feather…,you know?
I’d be interested to know which of his policies you support because, not “the” American people as you say but a section of them, would benefit? Yet I realise, as you said in your previous post, you think it would be a digression…
I think most of those who are pro-Trump and who are also fairly sensible and intelligent individuals go very quiet when he does something like try to take over part of another sovereign state.
Many voted for him because he was championing particular personal causes or economic ideologies that were dear to them. So he has a very wide and very varied group of supporters in the US. Many of these voters totally worship the ground he walks on and are unable to utter a word of criticism. So the result is that they can say nothing when he oversteps the boundaries of international order.
It’s not that they are not reading such posts, it’s just that it goes against their principles to say anything contrary, but they also cannot say anything positive about something so controversial and astonishing.
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Of course there is the possibility that it is actually quite difficult to rationally defend or even explain much of Trump’s policies and actions. Tariffs? Car crash with no tangible benefit. Overseas actions? Criminal and ineffectual. Peace efforts? Dismal and without results. Removal of undocumented? Creation of an armed & funded militia that regularly goes beyond its brief. DOGE? All estimates point to very little money saved and a back log of court cases created.
Even if someone supports Trump’s stated goals, it is surely hard to find the justification of the means he has put in place.
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But isn’t hate hate, whichever side of the fence it comes from Azz?
The world is in a constant battle between hate and love, it is distributed evenly to maintain a status quo. The human race would not survive if either one triumphed.
I think I’ve been greatly misunderstood on this subject, and to avoid straying too far off piste I will reserve my explanation for another day and another topic…Only if I’m allowed…
I’m probably guilty as charged concerning Trump and Putin Azz, however, I always see the good in people and it just seems that the people with the best ideas, also are the ones with the worst ideas… 
There has never been a politician/President or Prime Minister that I have supported that is 100% agreeable and if truth be told, nobody on the forum has either… 
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Yes, you seem to have it all sewn up Lincs, and no matter what I offer in Trumps defence you will scour the internet and news items to rebuke it and me, so I can see no reason why we should perpetuate the subject, because I won’t change your opinion and you won’t change mine. It always turns into a ‘points scoring exercise’ that I don’t have the time or inclination to pursue.
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Like with Boris Johnson, the media take great delight in finding something Trump has said and blow it out of all proportion without reciting the whole story Mr Smith…
The people that matter know the difference…
These people Foxy? 
Scour? Extensive and laborious searching is never ever required (unless I feel it worth finding data to evidence / backup my opinion).
I do not see any of our exchanges as point scoring. I only ever see my posts as trying to provide more accurate information or explanation that you have given. Or to correct something claimed that is obviously wrong or without justification.
It would take a change in decisions and policies in those you admire (Farage, Trump, Putin) for me to change my views of them and what they do or say. So in that sense it is correct that your views will not change my opinion. What you would need to do is provide insights that are not thus far evident (e.g. Putin is a good leader because he has benefited …place insight here). I can then assess that insight for veracity, credibility and value (compared to his negative attributes). Who knows, if there are enough positive insights then they could outweigh the very evident negative ones… and I’ll change my opinion.
No man is an island Chilli, and Trump will have very experienced advisors and people working behind the scenes.
But the concern is will this pompous president even listen and take advice or carry on going his own sweet way?
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Wealthy white Christian men 
You think the media are blowing his comments about British troops out of proportion today OGF? People who lost their children in Afghanistan don’t think much of his views. A man who lost his son in the fighting said his son had a saying “engage brain before opening mouth” which he recommended Mr Trump should think about adopting.
It’s not just those who died, but those who had life-changing injuries. I had a first hand account from a Royal Marine who talked of how lucky he was when he ended up in a skirmish, but his fellow soldier was badly injured by a bomb or grenade missile. All this so the US could hand the place back to the same regime years later…
Go on defend him OGF. Defend the indefensible.
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Somehow I don’t find that particularly reassuring Foxy!
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