Precisely why we need more people to vote for change. All these conferences are a waste of time because nobody says anything different. Vague and vacuous, superficial window dressing.
Everything, just trying to fathom out why these corrupt political parties get away with
criminal acts against the taxpayer. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-67052729
Things are going well for Starmer - and his confidence showed
Henry Zeffman
Chief political correspondent
In his three and a half years as Labour leader, Sir Keir Starmer has slowly established near-total authority over his party.
Todayâs conference speech exemplified that. Praising Tony Blair, vowing reform of the NHS and leading a standing ovation in support of Israel - this was not a leader trying to nudge his party out of its comfort zone, but drawing attention to how far its comfort zone has already moved.
It was also a testament to Starmerâs current boldness. Those who work with him closely say that he is a confidence performer - that he loosens up and takes risks when things are going well for him, but that he can lose a bit of his mojo in adversity.
With a persistent lead over the Conservatives in the polls, things are going well for Starmer at the moment. That confidence showed in his speech.
Though the promise to build a generation of new towns is eye-catching, itâs fair to say Starmer resisted calls from some in his party to unleash a torrent of policy in the speech. But those around him say that was less important than formulating an argument about why Starmer wants to be prime minister and why Labour deserve the votersâ trust.
Iâm sure that Sir Keir is well aware that thereâs many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip ⊠
Indeed, neither party are trustworthy, am weary of seesawing politics.
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Whoever wins the next Election, they are going to have a mountain of problems to deal with.
These are International problems, the era of cheap money is over, we will not be able to afford to borrow more.
China is already in a mess, as for us, it is simply a matter of being able to afford to pay the Interest on what we have already borrowed, which next year, will mean we are paying over ÂŁ100 Billion in interest.
If Labour want to build that many houses they will have to change the Planning Laws, which could take years.
The Tories will have the same problems.
If Labour want to buildthat
We are in crisis, the demonstrator made the right call, true democracy should be citizen led. Politics needs an update.
Agree with his opinion, not his actions; only if it was glitter.
Pity he was such a prat .
What a thing to do and what a security risk he could have poured anything something dangerous .
I though Keir Starmer handled it very well .
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Labour likely to win and off we go for another ride on merry go round politics. There has to be a better way to govern. Voting is irrelevant until it is fair.
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A significant paragraph:
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Ministers, who may not be there in a year, are on top of a civil service which is permanent and who have nothing more to worry about than who gets what gong.
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What this got to do with the Labour Conference?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-67072784/page/2
What did we learn from Starmerâs Breakfast interview?
In his BBC Breakfast interview, Starmer lined up squarely with the government by saying Israel had every right to defend itself after Hamasâs âappalling terrorismâ.
He was asked about yesterdayâs speech being disrupted by a protester throwing glitter, with the Labour leader saying he had worked hard to change the party since 2019 and wanted to make his case to the country, so he was not going to be deflected by âthat idiotâ.
He spoke of âbuilding the case for hope⊠after years of declineâ under the Conservatives, including delivering the new homes he said they had failed to (1)
Starmer also defended himself against suggestions his speech was policy-light. He said he was âbomb-proofing everything we offerâ and offering voters an âemotional connection with the futureâ that showed he understood peopleâs problems and aspirations.
(1) Starmer declines to get into numbers of new houses
On his housing promises, Starmer says the aim of his speech was to âreach for the futureâ and say that the UK can have a âdecade of national renewalâ. He says housing is âhugely importantâ, repeating his line about bulldozing through the planning system in England (2). He adds itâs not about the exact numbers of houses.
(1) Starmer pushed on where new houses will be built
On BBC Breakfast, Sir Keir Starmer is pressed on the detail of his plans to open up planning, saying there are no specified regions yet to build the more than a million new homes he has pledged. Instead itâll be a âbidding processâ to form these new towns, he says, based on need and whether infrastructure is in place or can be built and getting support of local communities (3).
(2) Local government planning may have its problems and its critics, for and against, but to allow massive unplanned house-building is madness.
(3) Even with current local government planning, semi-rural and rural communities have had thousands of houses foisted upon them with no though of infrastructure, resulting in congested roads and overloaded local services.
Proposing such madness has just lost my vote for Labour.
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Our Planning System is a nightmare, one person with a bit of money can hold up things for years.
This makes things so much more expensive.
Other countries do not have the same issues and do things quicker, better and cheaper than we do.
They have a set of rules for large infrastructure programmes and the locals are paid compensation as well as being able to use the new facilities provided.
We have vast amounts of land already with planning permission, they are not being built on because the speculators who own them are waiting for the price to go up.
This is not allowed in many countries, any profits are taxed out at 100% or more.
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Locally:
Before the Preston planning committee met to discuss the scheme, 47 objections were received regarding âthe lack of local amenities to accommodate an additional 151 dwellings and the impact of highway safety including increased congestion and addition of a new junction on the A6.â
Ben Wallace MP objected to the application due to the âdetrimental impact on the rural character of the villageâ. Barton Parish Council objected due to multiple factors but stated that the scheme was in an âunsustainable location with low accessibility to jobs, shops, and servicesâ along with âinsufficient highway capacity on the A6.â
The word of Ben Wallace carries no weight currently so a proposed Labour bulldozer would have a field day.
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Key points from Phillipsonâs education speech
Shadow education secretary Bridget Phillipson has finished her speech at the Labour Party conference.
- Phillipson began her speech by saying background âwill not be a barrier for educationâ, saying there should be âopportunity for everyoneâ
- She promised a Labour government would restore freedom, learning and joy in education, saying the system was âliterally crumblingâ in reference to the RAAC crisis in schools
- In further attacks on the governmentâs record, she hit out at what she said was the slashing of staff and standards in early years childcare and accused the Conservatives of having no plan for education
- She also announced a ârevolutionâ in reading standards and a renewed focus on maths
- Phillipson promised Labour would bring maths to life for the next generation, with better training for teachers
Commit the Labour Party to a fairer voting system, have never seen the value of party conferences, say and do something to benefit the country. They wonât because of illicit finances.
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Square peg, round hole. All the same nonsense and if things do not work out just blame the Conservatives. Iâd vote for Aliens. 
The issue with me is that all conferences have none that are deliverable.
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I think that the real tragedy is that some promises are deliverable, but we do not have the political leadership to do so.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-67072784
Final day of Labour conference, in brief
After four days of speeches, debates and policy pledges, Labourâs annual conference is over.
The main event was leader Sir Keir Starmerâs speech yesterday.
But there was plenty happening this morning, before the conference wrapped up with renditions of the hymn Jerusalem and the song the Red Flag, just after noon.
This morning:
- We heard from Starmer, who did a round of media interviews to answer questions about his speech and that glitter protest
- Speaking to the BBC, Starmer branded Hamasâs attack on Israel as âappalling and shockingâ, talked of âbulldozingâ planning restrictions to build more homes, and insisted he wasnât fazed by the âidiotâ protester who disrupted his speech
- His media blitz was followed by speeches from shadow education secretary Bridget Phillipson and shadow health secretary health Wes Streeting
- Phillipson unveiled Labourâs plan to teach âreal worldâ maths skills in primary schools
- Streeting said reform will play a bigger part than investment in rebuilding the NHS
In the end, the conference was more style than substance ⊠
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It is an interesting fact that the Labour Party Conference 2023 has garnered more discussion in this forum than the Conservative Party Conference 2023 by a factor of 5 or 6.
I wonder why? Is it purely because the Labour Party is the government in waiting? or does the Labour party conference excite more interest? Is it more interesting than the Tory conference?