UK Labour Party Conference 2023 Liverpool

Labour are in a difficult position.They have to appeal to their traditional support but also try to convince the big end of town, who always vote Tory,that they are no threat to them.Which they never have been in the past…

You’ve obviously been reading the right wing press muddy

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I am by nature a socialist and it pains me to see the Labour Party as it is .
I read a lot of press including the Guardian on a daily basis .
What I read there makes my heart sink .

She set both of my hearing aids off on overload :wink:

Hi

I know some posters will think this is off topic.

In my view Labour have some big problems to deal with.

The political system is broken after all the lies and broken promises, many voters do not trust any politician.

The cost of servicing the debt debt has shot up due, to a large extent because of the disaster that was Liz Truss.

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Sir Keir Starmer will pledge to “build a new Britain” with extra powers for housing and local mayors if Labour wins the next election.

Speaking at the party’s annual conference on Tuesday, the Labour leader will promise to accelerate building on unused urban land (1).

He will also say Labour would build the “next generation of New Towns” near English cities.

And he will say extra police will guarantee patrols in town centres.

Suggesting Labour is aiming for two terms in power, he will say a Labour victory would herald a “decade of national renewal” after 13 years of Conservative-led government.

“What is broken can be repaired, what is ruined can be rebuilt,” he will tell delegates.

Sir Keir’s speech in Liverpool could be his last before a general election, expected next year, and could be his final opportunity to make a speech to a conference audience setting out his pitch to be prime minister to the country.

In talking of a decade of renewal, he will seek to show his confidence and to evoke memories of post-Second World War PM Clement Attlee by emphasising the theme of rebuilding.

(1) As long as he keeps it urban … :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Maybe, but not by him and the liebore party. Or the Conservatives, both entrenched against change.

Liz Truss appointed Hunt Chancellor of the Exchequer. Totally the wrong man for any government post.

Imagine the scenario if Corbyn had been PM, with what happened at the week-end.

No difference between them, no ideas about governance, no mandate for real
democracy, only arrogant complacency that one or the other party will be voted back into power.

14:05

Starmer starts speaking

Sir Keir Starmer, the leader of the Labour party has begun his highly anticipated speech.

He’s getting a lot of clapping .

Slow?

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There you have it!

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“the fragmentation of the old party system makes some form of change inevitable, sooner or later. The question is whether we want to be involved in that process or whether – as with Scottish devolution or Lords reform – we end up leaving it to the Left to design the new system.”

Lord Dan Hannan

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What this got to do with the Labour Conference?

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What this got to do with the Labour Conference?

What happened in Starmer’s speech?

Phew - that felt like a long one. While we give our hands a rest from the typing, here’s a recap of some of the key points from the Labour leader’s speech:

  • Homebuilding - This was the big announcement. Starmer said home ownership shouldn’t be a luxury for just a few and promised to “tear down” the barriers blocking it. He said Labour planned to get Britain building again with a plan for 1.5 million homes and a host of “Labour new towns” - new, large scale housing settlements (1) like the so-called new towns built after WWII under Labour
  • Cost of living - the crisis is weighing heavily on people’s lives, he says - and Labour can offer “long-term solutions”
  • NHS - Starmer said he would abolish the controversial nom-dom tax status, which he says allows the richest people to avoid paying for vital services, and that the money would be put into the NHS, which he wants to “get back on its feet”
  • Education - he reiterated Labour’s plan to charge private schools 20% VAT, saying the money will be put into other school services
  • Conservatives - he repeatedly took aim at the Tories and Tory PMs past and present, who he says “don’t solve problems but use them to divide”
  • Police - Labour would invest to get more police on the streets, he said (2)
  • And… glitter - His speech hadn’t even begun when a man from the group People Demand Democracy ran onto stage and tipped some glitter over him

(1) That’s an ominous word

(2) Saying’s one thing, doing’s another

Change to a fairer system ending the two party Hobson’s choice. Two equally unpleasant political parties. imo

Nothing to do with the Labour conference, then.

I note that you have already started a thread on Electoral Reform: