Indeed, neither party are trustworthy, am weary of seesawing politics.
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Whoever wins the next Election, they are going to have a mountain of problems to deal with.
These are International problems, the era of cheap money is over, we will not be able to afford to borrow more.
China is already in a mess, as for us, it is simply a matter of being able to afford to pay the Interest on what we have already borrowed, which next year, will mean we are paying over £100 Billion in interest.
If Labour want to build that many houses they will have to change the Planning Laws, which could take years.
The Tories will have the same problems.
If Labour want to buildthat
We are in crisis, the demonstrator made the right call, true democracy should be citizen led. Politics needs an update.
Agree with his opinion, not his actions; only if it was glitter.
Pity he was such a prat .
What a thing to do and what a security risk he could have poured anything something dangerous .
I though Keir Starmer handled it very well .
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Labour likely to win and off we go for another ride on merry go round politics. There has to be a better way to govern. Voting is irrelevant until it is fair.
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A significant paragraph:
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Ministers, who may not be there in a year, are on top of a civil service which is permanent and who have nothing more to worry about than who gets what gong.
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What this got to do with the Labour Conference?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-67072784/page/2
What did we learn from Starmer’s Breakfast interview?
In his BBC Breakfast interview, Starmer lined up squarely with the government by saying Israel had every right to defend itself after Hamas’s “appalling terrorism”.
He was asked about yesterday’s speech being disrupted by a protester throwing glitter, with the Labour leader saying he had worked hard to change the party since 2019 and wanted to make his case to the country, so he was not going to be deflected by “that idiot”.
He spoke of “building the case for hope… after years of decline” under the Conservatives, including delivering the new homes he said they had failed to (1)
Starmer also defended himself against suggestions his speech was policy-light. He said he was “bomb-proofing everything we offer” and offering voters an “emotional connection with the future” that showed he understood people’s problems and aspirations.
(1) Starmer declines to get into numbers of new houses
On his housing promises, Starmer says the aim of his speech was to “reach for the future” and say that the UK can have a “decade of national renewal”. He says housing is “hugely important”, repeating his line about bulldozing through the planning system in England (2). He adds it’s not about the exact numbers of houses.
(1) Starmer pushed on where new houses will be built
On BBC Breakfast, Sir Keir Starmer is pressed on the detail of his plans to open up planning, saying there are no specified regions yet to build the more than a million new homes he has pledged. Instead it’ll be a “bidding process” to form these new towns, he says, based on need and whether infrastructure is in place or can be built and getting support of local communities (3).
(2) Local government planning may have its problems and its critics, for and against, but to allow massive unplanned house-building is madness.
(3) Even with current local government planning, semi-rural and rural communities have had thousands of houses foisted upon them with no though of infrastructure, resulting in congested roads and overloaded local services.
Proposing such madness has just lost my vote for Labour.
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Our Planning System is a nightmare, one person with a bit of money can hold up things for years.
This makes things so much more expensive.
Other countries do not have the same issues and do things quicker, better and cheaper than we do.
They have a set of rules for large infrastructure programmes and the locals are paid compensation as well as being able to use the new facilities provided.
We have vast amounts of land already with planning permission, they are not being built on because the speculators who own them are waiting for the price to go up.
This is not allowed in many countries, any profits are taxed out at 100% or more.
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Locally:
Before the Preston planning committee met to discuss the scheme, 47 objections were received regarding “the lack of local amenities to accommodate an additional 151 dwellings and the impact of highway safety including increased congestion and addition of a new junction on the A6.”
Ben Wallace MP objected to the application due to the “detrimental impact on the rural character of the village”. Barton Parish Council objected due to multiple factors but stated that the scheme was in an “unsustainable location with low accessibility to jobs, shops, and services” along with “insufficient highway capacity on the A6.”
The word of Ben Wallace carries no weight currently so a proposed Labour bulldozer would have a field day.
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Key points from Phillipson’s education speech
Shadow education secretary Bridget Phillipson has finished her speech at the Labour Party conference.
- Phillipson began her speech by saying background “will not be a barrier for education”, saying there should be “opportunity for everyone”
- She promised a Labour government would restore freedom, learning and joy in education, saying the system was “literally crumbling” in reference to the RAAC crisis in schools
- In further attacks on the government’s record, she hit out at what she said was the slashing of staff and standards in early years childcare and accused the Conservatives of having no plan for education
- She also announced a “revolution” in reading standards and a renewed focus on maths
- Phillipson promised Labour would bring maths to life for the next generation, with better training for teachers
Commit the Labour Party to a fairer voting system, have never seen the value of party conferences, say and do something to benefit the country. They won’t because of illicit finances.
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Square peg, round hole. All the same nonsense and if things do not work out just blame the Conservatives. I’d vote for Aliens. 
The issue with me is that all conferences have none that are deliverable.
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I think that the real tragedy is that some promises are deliverable, but we do not have the political leadership to do so.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-67072784
Final day of Labour conference, in brief
After four days of speeches, debates and policy pledges, Labour’s annual conference is over.
The main event was leader Sir Keir Starmer’s speech yesterday.
But there was plenty happening this morning, before the conference wrapped up with renditions of the hymn Jerusalem and the song the Red Flag, just after noon.
This morning:
- We heard from Starmer, who did a round of media interviews to answer questions about his speech and that glitter protest
- Speaking to the BBC, Starmer branded Hamas’s attack on Israel as “appalling and shocking”, talked of “bulldozing” planning restrictions to build more homes, and insisted he wasn’t fazed by the “idiot” protester who disrupted his speech
- His media blitz was followed by speeches from shadow education secretary Bridget Phillipson and shadow health secretary health Wes Streeting
- Phillipson unveiled Labour’s plan to teach “real world” maths skills in primary schools
- Streeting said reform will play a bigger part than investment in rebuilding the NHS
In the end, the conference was more style than substance … 
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It is an interesting fact that the Labour Party Conference 2023 has garnered more discussion in this forum than the Conservative Party Conference 2023 by a factor of 5 or 6.
I wonder why? Is it purely because the Labour Party is the government in waiting? or does the Labour party conference excite more interest? Is it more interesting than the Tory conference?
Oldies should not be easily excited!
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How will we know we are still alive ?
Speak for yourself 