The USA and the settler colony of Israel has started a war with Iran

I will be very happy if that is what happens.

However, I can’t see that happening. The Iranian people are polarised, and that includes the diaspora. If the regime falls I predict civil war and extremism could just replace the current extremism or decades of political instability. We have seen the same happen in other countries. Whatever their views people there are united in a deep distrust of America.

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Have read such before Bruce and yours was an interesting read.

Because they were totally incapable of defending themselves. United States has served as the primary security guarantor for NATO, providing the majority of military funding, strategic leadership, and conventional defense capabilities. Facts.

As long as you don’t count leading major operations in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Libya.

Spending money to protect other countries security militarily does not have any return on the dollar spent.

I’ll correct your quote
What help did any European give the UK during the falklands conflict? Let’s see colonization, this is a conflict not a war, 274 loses in 74 days, high loses for such a short time.

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The United States is not here to win a popularity contest and we’re not going to try. Countries have to learn, they are not our equal in numerous things and inform others if and when we decide to.

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I wonder how the American Indians felt when forcibly pushed / walking off his tribal lands and heading to a summer Camp.

It’s always the power of the Powder and methods that throw those weak into camps someplace. Iran
has a 50-year history of supporting the Terrorists. Mostly ‘Israeli hate’ but also others too. How much hate has the Jew have for those who persecuted his people. I see a certain mental illnesses conditions, here an over there. Changing the ‘subject of notice’ every ‘couple of weeks’.

Is the justification of we want it, want to do it, intend to, the correct response to why?

I fully echo that sentiment - in the very, very unlikely event that Trump’s war results in victory AND a change of regime for the people of Iran then I would be exceptionally content. But, I’d be more than exceptionally surprised.
In return, I wonder if the two pro-Trump and pro-Iran war contributors to this thread will acknowledge the waste, the damage and the dumbness of this war if Trump ends up simply backing out with no real result of anything, no regime change and no tangible thing to call “victory”. (We can all be certain that Trump will call whatever he walks away from a great victory, maybe the biggest victory, and things were obliterated & destroyed & objectives met - even if they were not.)

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Win what? All the US want is Iran to stop their nuclear weapons development. And return to the negotiation table.

Let’s see, the Americans took the 13 colonies away from the British, Took Florida from the Spanish. Bought the Louisiana purchase from the French. Took the Southwest of the United States away from the Spanish. Bought Alaska from Russia.

It look like the Americans got the land from Europeans.

Whick is way off topic.

LOL, the land was taken away from Native Americans by the Europeans, then the Europeans who stole the land from Native Americans took the land from their “mother countries” then formed the USA, either way, the land was stolen from Native Americans, sugar coat as you wish Robin, but that is the facts, the first permanent settlers in North America were Asian.

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That might just be the dumbest, most delusional post in this thread. Iran was at the negotiating table when the US attacked. Quite literally progressing negotiations. Trump attacked because Israel had decided to attack. Israel decided to attack because it did not want a negotiated agreement - it wanted either regime change or a terribly damaged Iran. Trump stopped the negotiations because Israel wanted him to.
And now you claim that all Trump wants is Iran back at the negotiation table. Really? We know that Trump rarely engages his brain before speaking or tweeting, but honest, you don’t have to copy everything he does.

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Excellent point Ms. Annie.S, Islam is not only a religion, it’s a lifestyle (as religions are), and as Iraq was after the US invasion in 2003, a Democratic Iran would be caught up in civil war with the many factions of Islam for years, meaning with it’s position in Gulf Straits, the Straits could be destabilized for years greatly effecting the shipping of crude (or any commodity) into/ out of , thus ruining many Middle East economies.

The impact of an unstable Iran on oil and commodity shipping in the Middle East, consider the following points:

  • Increased risk of shipping disruptions due to geopolitical tensions.
  • Potential for higher insurance costs for vessels operating in the region.
  • Threats to maritime security from piracy or military actions.
  • Possible sanctions affecting trade routes and shipping operations.
  • Fluctuations in oil prices due to supply chain uncertainties.
  • Impact on global markets and economies reliant on Middle Eastern oil.
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Israel supplied Nazi Don with THE EXCUSE to attack Iran, Trump’s unlawful assault on the Iranians is no less than US Corporate adventurism, were there no oil/ valuable minerals, the US stays out of this unwinnable conflict. See the US criminal assault on Venezuela, oil/ minerals. Donald J. Trump is the present day "king of crimes against world peace and humanity, with Israel a close 2nd, which puts Putin at #3.

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My sense is that Netanyahu told Trump that no previous US president had been brave enough or bold enough to attack Iran properly. That tummy-tickling is exactly what baby-like Trump responds to. Who’s a big brave orange baby? Who’s the boldest of them all?

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Harold Henning

Ahhh, but remember, Trump is an oligarch, money/ profit / supreme control is what motivates him, were there no financial gain (oil/ valuable minerals), Nazi Don could give zilch about Israel / Iran. Remember Trump’s constituents are either Corporate and / or Christian White Nationalists (worst racists in the world), religion means nothing to him!!!

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It means nothing to anybody with one brain cell.

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Ahhh, but that is where you missed the “ship”, to millions it means everything. I saw at a young age (I’m Irish) the true purpose of religion( manipulation and control), but millions see it as a lifestyle and through the “believers” religion manipulates everything that happens in life (socially/ politically/ economically), and that is the reality we are forced to deal with, we might not believe, but the majority of the world does (through one concept or another). It’s religion at it’s most extreme who support Nazi Don!!

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Barchart
The Strait of Hormuz is just a distraction. The real story is bonds. What the yield curve is saying.
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I agree, apart from your last sentence. Americans in power and their frequent reference to God, look so cold and insincere that a person has to feel sorry for them stooping so low.
And no, I was not a Thatcher supporter, but it was reported that a couple of guys were giving her stimulating support.

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