The pig farmers dilemma

That would be more believable than your telling us you didn’t have a bias against the BBC. :slightly_smiling_face:

Yes Gee, this problem is not as straightforward as some might think.

In fact, makes me wonder if similar will happen with the Christmas poultry?

Anyone that questions the Tories it would seem.

Would you prefer this?

There’s lots written about the BBC’s bias, but try this for starters and discover that a few years ago only 37% thought that the BBC was impartial. :wink:

Now can we return to the thread topic?
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That might be the best idea. :slightly_smiling_face:

After that little demonstration of your bias against the BBC, Zaphod, yes, I think we should return to the topic. :slightly_smiling_face:

Did you know that there’s a way to slaughter livestock without using abattoirs for home consumption?

There’s a lot of things IMHO that don’t add up; that don’t make much sense.

For example, the shortages in the industry haven’t happened overnight; we left the EU over nine months ago and these workers that we’re supposedly so short of can’t all have left Britain recently.
So why now?
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They haven’t all left, no.

Two things, a lot have, they have gone home because of Lockdown etc, and Brexit makes things difficult for them and their families.

Secondly, many do not understand how the system works.

They came across from Poland to empty out and clean the big poultry farms, 250,000 birds at a time, they did 3 a week as a gang and then went back home for 5 weeks before they came again.

Brexit has stopped this and it is a very specialised job.

The fall in the value of the £ has also altered the economics, they can earn more in Germany etc now than they can in the UK.

They can just go and work, no need for Visas or an expensive passport.

It is really that simple, they go where the money is.

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That’s all very good and I appreciate your comments, but you didn’t answer the question:

Why now?
It cannot have just happened all of a sudden.

Up to 1.3 million are estimated to have quit the UK since late 2019, “as many returned to their country of birth to see through the pandemic at home”

So not in the last few weeks then?
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Thanks for proving it’s not happened all of a sudden though.
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Would it have mattered, Johnson was not prepared either way?

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Nope, I did answer the question.

It has been a known problem for ages, but only just got into the public domain.

Boris has known about this but refused to do anything until too late and what he has done is too little.

People are going bankrupt because of this and Boris is doing nothing.

It is simply a case of I’m all right.

When you can explain what Boris Johnson has to do with it that might become relevant but Boris is not responsible for employing abattoir workers or truck drivers, their employers are.
These employers have known for years that change was likely.

Really?
So there was no problem with slaughtering pigs until now but the answer is that it’s only just been made public?
And it’s not affecting anything other than pigs for that reason too I suppose?
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More remainer BS. The bit where that article says …

The NPA wants the Government to offer 12-month visas to EU butchers to ease the crisis - but sources close to the Prime Minister told The Times he is determined not to relax immigration rules and believes that abattoirs must increase wages and also develop new tech and better facilities to solve the crisis themselves.

They want to continue with their cheap labour and not having to invest in technology and to do it they are harvesting a scare story about animal welfare.

I don’t believe a word of this shit … expect more in the run up to Christmas when the public fall for these stupid stunts and start to panic buy, pushing up the farmers prices while they deliberately stifle supply and blame Brexit.

Dear pig farmers,

remember foot and mouth when the EU forced you to incinerate your national herds against the advice of EU vets ?

Dear cattle farmers,

remember BSE when the EU forced you to incinerate your national herds against the advice of the scientific, medical and veterinary community who said there was no link of catching BSE from infected cows. Even if only 1 cow out of 1000 was positive for BSE but you had to destroy everything anyway ?

Yep, Johnson is absolutely blameless, Brexit and the effects it would have on many many sectors of the UK are sod all to do with him or his useless ministers.
Not sure where you think employers were going to replace a million + European workers with given they went home and Johnson has pretty much banned them from coming here.
Now of course they will have jobs elsewhere and have n reason to come to tge UK for work as was proved by the hgv drivers, 5000 wanted 127 came.
But hey sod all to do with the Tories and in particular that idiot Johnson.

Johnson is to blame alright, he should have made sure that we were subsiding our own farmers properly instead of continuing to pay for French farmers instead.

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Wash you mouth out. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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