An interesting news item showing the other side of the ‘push’ to get us all driving electric cars – all the used batteries. This will it seems be the start of another industry in disposing of them. Nothing like disposing of the usual lead-acid car battery though, it’s a specialist and possibly dangerous process. The possible expected scale of electric car use by 2030, just nine years’ away, is quite something too.
[I]“The rate at which we’re growing the industry is absolutely scary,” says Paul Anderson from Birmingham University.
He’s talking about the market for electric cars in Europe.
By 2030, the EU hopes, there will be 30 million electric cars on European roads.
It’s something that’s never really been done before at that rate of growth for a completely new product," says Dr Anderson, who is also the co-director of the Birmingham Centre for Strategic Elements and Critical Materials."[/I]
Yes these women may be very attractive but they seldom have anything good to say about their country. It’s a shame that they are often also fairly close to the mark. At least they’re home grown. Not made in China.
I have yet to see the cost of replacing an all electric car battery.
What are they not telling us? I recon it will be in the hundreds of pounds at least if not thousands ,judging a normal car battery can be from £80 upwards.
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£4920 for a small car like a Nissan leaf!!! what would a larger car cost
even with a £1000 cash back for the old one think of how many miles £4000 of a petrol car will go
This is why car manufactures are reluctant to pass this vital information on to the customers
I have a gas guzzling Holden V6. It’s 10 years old. We have looked after it well. It is in good shape. We drive it down to the city on an average of once per month. This is a 150 km round trip. Get the bus or train into my local town usually. We will try to get an EV when it dies. Too expensive now.
There is something quite unnatural and scary about the urgency to get us all driving Electric Vehicles. We have nowhere near the electrical capacity to support even half the population with demands for extra power. For the last few weeks a high pressure system has settled over England, or at least the bit that I live in. Very cold mornings, and very little wind. The many wind turbines situated around Yorkshire have stood idle, and the mighty Drax power station has been on full power trying to fill the chasm left by the wind turbines. I bet they didn’t brag about that on the BBC news…A coal fired, with some bio fuel, power station having to fill the shortcomings of sustainable power…
If you also look at the urgency with which to install ‘Smart Meters’ in every property, it doesn’t take Albert Einstein to see where all this is going…Everyone will have their driving limited by the amount of power they are allowed to consume. You might wake up to find that your E/V has not been charging overnight, so it will be out with the bike…
I was looking for information on the cost of batteries for electric vehicles. There was speculative talk of the cost being between £5,000 and £10,000 depending on the car! In the past I had read about leasing the batteries but couldn’t find that particular website, instead I found more information on electric vehicle batteries which some may be interested in reading:
Within the link above is another to the costs of running an electric car, notable is that EDF mention the ‘smart meter’ in conjunction with varying tariffs, showing it’s possible to control the cost of running an electric car by tinkering with tariffs:
An interesting discussion about the push for electric vehicles.
Personally, for the reasons given, I suspect that the wholesale drive for forcing everyone to move to electric vehicles will almost certainly fizzle out, just as so many trendy ideas do after reality strikes home.
There are so many reasons for this: the obvious expenses involved for the purchaser, the impractical situation of needing to travel beyond a certain distance without waiting hours to recharge, the lack of practical charging facilities for many people who do not possess their own garages or private driveways, the lack of capacity of our electricity supply system when more people ‘go electric’ (the same applies to the ditching of gas-fired heating) and with apparently no forthcoming expansion of our nuclear power generation facilities.
It amazes me that the government, with its army of knowledgeable advisors, still believes that what they are proposing to do can actually be achievable! :shock:
If nothing else, things are going to become very interesting.
I should be very surprised to learn that no-one has considered the future regarding electricity costs.
When (or IF) electric cars do become commonplace, surely it must be obvious that electricity supply companies will all rush to increase their tariffs!
They are suggesting at present that electric cars will be much cheaper to run than petrol/diesel cars, but just wait until they have cornered the market!
I don’t have one, but there are some pretty clean & efficient cars on the road now, called Hybrid, I think. Full electric might be good for things like local deliveries: stop/start inner city work.
Lithium is nasty, very nasty, and dangerous in its metallic elemental form. It is very difficult to recycle but that’s not to say recycling methods won’t be developed in the future that improve on this.
Whatever happened to that guy who patented another, more efficient, cleaner, cheaper, easily recyclable battery with a longer range that could be bought for just a few ££s at the supermarket?
Nonsense Swim…
There are a lot of people going to look very stupid when after taking all the measures we can possibly take; floods, bushfires, tornadoes, and rising sea levels will continue unabated…
Now if they were truthful and told us that Oil is running low…After all, we’ve been taking it out of the ground for the last few hundred years, and use increases every year…It is not infinite! It has to run out sooner or later…
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2030
"The world will run out of oil in 2030, and other fossil fuels in 2050." In the 1950s, a geologist named M. King Hubbert looked at oil production data from all of the major oil-producing countries in the world (at that time).
I think the link you supplied Baz was a little on the optimistic side…
According to this, the power consumption for an average sized Electric Vehicle would be the equivalent of boiling three electric kettles continuously throughout the night…:shock:
Or you could charge it on level one, in which case it would take 24 hours for a full charge…
What’s happened to the wind?
Here is where our electricity came from this month. Wind is represented by the light blue, Combined Coal and Gas is represented by the orange…If it hadn’t been for Drax, we would have been stuffed…
