Thatcher did Break Britain

At last I found someone who agrees that Thatcher broke Britain

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Thatcher saved the Falklands isles from being Attackedand overrun by the Argentiners .Some people have short memories.
She had a backbone and did what she said she would do. Not like the present Prime Minister who doen’t have a clue and changes direction like the wind. He promises everything and achieves nothing.

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Just as a matter of interest how did that affect you? Apart from costing the country (and therefore you) a lot of money and lives.

BTW she didn’t save them from being attacked she got them back after they were invaded.

What benefit are these remote territories to Britain?

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Thatcher did what Trump is doing now.Start a war to improve bad polls.

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Some things never change.

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The one positive thing Thatcher achieved was the European single market.
I would argue that every other single thing she did was detrimental to the UK in one way or other. She certainly was in power for many years too long.

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I got a well paid job, got married and bought a house during the Thatcher years Bruce, what’s not to like?
My parents were able to buy their own house too after living 25 years in a council house.
It might sound selfish, but me and my family did very well during the Thatcher years so I will always look on them fondly.
Thatcher realised the mistake of joining the EU (common market) she eventually could see where it was going and she was not wrong was she.
She was a proud Brit and advocated ‘Buy British’ the MP’s who were on the gravy train could see their demise and so stabbed her in the back
Bs’tards


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The best paid job I ever got was in 1998 under Blair. Do I give him credit for that? Nope. If you remember under Thatcher unemployment reached a record high - so do you not give a thought to the millions who lost their job under Thatcher?

The best property I ever bought was in 2005, also during Blair as PM. But that was done to me being in a good job and doing it well. The worst property buying decision I made was in 1989, under Thatcher. Do I blame her for that property rapidly being in negative equity. Yes I do.

You know, that was half of a good policy, so we almost agree. I helped my mother in law buy her council house of 30 years. But it came with a disastrous other half - which was stopping councils building replacement housing for the properties they sold. This has led directly to the housing problems in the UK today. Typical Thatcher, screw up one of her very few good policies and as result, screw up the country.

But overall, simply applying personal experience and ignoring what the wider picture was is not the way to determine if something is actually good or bad for the UK. All it says is “worked for me”.

Britain was broken before Thatcher came to power. Remember the winter of discontent? Derek Robinson (Red Robbo) and his ilk had brought the country to a standstill. People seem to forget the mess the country was in when she came to power.

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Please get your facts right. It was the unions constantly demanding more money that finished our car industry. Same with the steel industry -coal mining- railways -shipping, I could go on and on.
What they forgot it was the companies they worked for that paid their wages not ther unions. Everywhere unions were there was industrial unrest. This is what unions do ruin everything and put people out of work. The Communist ideal, everyone is the same apart from those that rule.

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Since The ?.
It wasn’t done for the benefit of the UK.
It was for a Territory within “The Commonwealth of Nations”.
Invaded by the Argentine. As a distraction of Discontent within. Similar to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Coincidently. With significantly more Success. Orchestrated by MT.

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She was an evil evil witch


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she had a backbone not like todays wimp who is not even fit to mop floors

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WITCHES.
“Unlike” Historical, Malevolent Stereotypes.
MODERN Witches.
Use Rituals. > [ Heroic Tasks]
Action.To heal, > [Resolve]
Connect with nature, > [As Is/Should Be]
Or Advocate for Social Justice.> [Stability]
With the support. Of A Dreadnought.!!

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You are going on and on about something I’ve not mentioned. I made no claim about the destruction of these industries. Why are you claiming I did?
But now that you mention it, perhaps we all need a little reminder. Thatcher and her government did look back on the problems of the early 70’s and how Heath was defeated by the unions. And the unions were aggressive - inside the building in central London that used to be home to the steel industries representative & negotiating body there is a very strong steel door. Its there to stop rampaging union members from assaulting the offices above. Certainly the car industry had its union mobsters intent on socialist revolution.
But. Thatcher went in with an aim to neuter the unions completely. Not to change them or work with them or simply contain them. But destroy them. She made sure coal was well stockpiled, and the police well incentivised and then picked a fight with Scargill. And worse, she looked at services and the financial sector as the solution - no more big industry with its associated big union memberships.
Again she did half a job. She made sure UK manufacturing was diminished. But she failed to make sure the UK workforce was well adapted the high tech, services focused, finance sector dependent future. No investment in needed education and training.
Look across at how Europe handled its union problem. France has three large car manufacturers. Germany is the automoitive powerhouse.
Nope. Thatcher was good at fighting and destroying. Useless at building a way forward. Anyone who moans about the lack of large scale manufacturing in the UK needs to look at Thatcher’s legacy. She decided that taking away the jobs that had unions was the route to negating the problem unions and problem union leaders. That was not the only option available.

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I must admit I find calling a female Prime Minister “a witch” rather offensive, you may not like her philosophy/ideology (and I certainly don’t) but that is just sexist name calling.

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While Thatcher was busily ripping apart the fabric of British society in order to destroy the British union movement, in Australia the Labor Hawke/Keating government achieved exactly the same thing with The Accord which not only removed rampant inflation but improved the living conditions and wages for all Australian workers and changed the economy for the better. The Accord was an agreement between the government and the unions for wage restraint over many years.

By the end of the Accord union membership was decimated, achieving what Thatcher never achieved through peaceful agreement and nation building. Why would anybody need to join a union when the Industrial Relations system was designed to give a worker a fair go?

The Accord laid the foundation for Australia’s economic prosperity with no recession for over 30 years.

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Our guy made many visits to “Transport House” for negotiations, good job he did, meant more time in the pub with the birds for the sideline commentators :grin:

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it’s a military base.

While there were many aspects of her financial policies that inevitably led to disaster in later years (in particular the housing bubble), I am disappointed with the shallow analysis in the you tube clip. I guess the in-depth reality of her liberation of finances, and throwing caution to the wind approach is incompatible with the short attention required for doom-scrolling. Easier to just pick on the stuff people like to see. In terms of the last two points made, I don’t see any correlation between Thatcher and repression of LGBT or any racist agenda. If anything the country became more open minded and inclusive during her leadership, although she is not to be credited for that, it just happened as an evolution of culture and particularly following the spread of AIDS & subsequent campaigning by high profile celebrities & Princess Diana. If anything Thatcher’s policies led to more inclusivity as her championing of European unity and globalism led to more people crossing the border in the UK.