Sarah Everard

It very often is. Not just as the victim either.

Well he hasn’t been found guilty yet but being a family man or nice guy has never meant that someone can’t commit murder.

Some people don’t like buses.

Rape is the woman’s fault?

Depends on the circumstances doesn’t it ?
How many pubescent boys are taught by their parents to respect women and that forcing them into taking part in non consensual sex is very wrong ?

Interesting but that’s not an answer to my question

You won’t get a definitive answer on that one !

What’s that supposed to mean ?
Some things are inherently wrong and men know it .
Rape is a crime of violence .

Not necessarily.

She obviously liked exercise Zulieka ??
And chose to walk, maybe unwisely as it was dark ?
I noticed there was a layby on that road, which was where the
TVclip l saw showed the extra lighting had been installed ??
It looked like one of these LED array sort of thingies that are easy
to install ??

Donkeyman!

Always

Always
I don’t mean that people can’t claim falsely to be raped .
That is another thing .

What do you mean, depends on the circumstances?

Do you mean Consent?

Aren’t we talking rape?

Wouldn’t they automatically know that forcing a woman to have sex is wrong?..
Especially if the woman says no and starts struggling, wouldn’t that be an indication to that young man
that it’s wrong?..shouldn’t they then stop?
Or do they have to be taught that?

Can you explain what you mean by, Not necessarily?..:slight_smile:

Sometimes no can mean maybe - work for it. That results in mistakes being made especially as some girls like a bit of rough.

No means no

So if a female rapes a male it’s always out of violence ?

At what stage does playing hard to get evolve into “no”?

That’s the quandary.

No means no. End of.

There’s an app in Australia being spoken about where consent is given beforehand. Its meant to ensure no mistakes or “misunderstandings” occur.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-56438560

Your issues with other women especially young women comes through loud and clear.