I’m not silly, Zuleika …I’ve been around a long time…I know what “ SOME” woman are capable of…I also believe some police officers like to twist and turn…I know because I’ve had first hand experience of it…humans can be very sneaky and deceptive…including “ some” police officers.
If one can’t see what’s blatantly being suggested by using that pic over and over , no use trying to explain .
Not to someone who has a closed mind that’s true .
Let’s leave it at that?
Ther’s more on the agenda today .
Nope you are just running out of made up scenarios .
Your arguments get weaker Muddy .
Give it up Muddy , throwing insults around when you have no idea about how I see you g women .
That’s the hub of it Muddy!
VIGILS were held all over the country without incident !!
that says it all, VIGILS not PROTESTS, What we saw in London
This is a country where people value freedom of expression Women have the freedom to express sorrow and the freedom to be safe on the streets .The irony of a vigil for a women murdered by a police officer ending in women being attacked by police officers seems to have escaped you .
We don’t want a police state where those who think they have power can exercise brutality without responsibility .
The whole thing was horribly reminiscent of women being manhandled in the Suffragette movement .
It would seem we are going backwards .
Muddy, no Covid = No (direct) Police intervention, there could be an argument the Statute Book is being amended off the back of a Health Crisis, but that is another matter. Imo.
It’s not an insult it the truth however if want to live in a tin pot dictatorship where the police lie and there is no freedom you only have to nip over to Portugal . There the police will make up a scenario and then write a book about it 
Did you see the police manhandling Rangers supporters last week as they blatantly flouted covid rules ?
No why not because they are not women
That’s the nub of it Muddy!
VIGILS were held all over the country without incident !!
that says it all, VIGILS not PROTESTS, What we saw in London
started as a vigil but became a protest when a few mainly young
females started obstructing the police??
From what l saw the vast majority of the crowd were standing
quietly and there were no struggles going on? Only in one specific
area did struggles break out, strangely ,cameras etc happened to
be in those areas? And then the banners came out??
A vigil is supposed to show respect to the deceased ??
Do you think that was achieved ??
Donkeyman!
Have you read any of my posts Donkeyman .
The vigil in London the capital city from where this poor girl was abducted and murdered by a police officier was obviously going to attract more people and stronger feeling .
Nevertheless the police handled it badly and used inappropriate force on women.
Too many witnesses Donkeyman they can’t all be wrong .
Did you read my post Muddy ???
Donkeyman!
I was just making toast away from this thread thinking “ I know what Muddy will resort to “ …and you have done just that .
The vigil was banned . Nevertheless all those people that night went out breaking lockdown .
Goodness knows how many will regret if if they picked up covid and / or transmit it to family
Most are not even human.
The vigil was not actually banned
Gatherings in public are generally banned but, however the rules recognise there can be reasonable excuses to be outside.
The problem is that the law doesn’t specify whether a demonstration on a major issue of public importance - such as this vigil - is one of those excuses or not.
Police officers must enforce the lockdown laws but seem to be selective as to what they do enforce.
They also know that the right to protest is enshrined in the Human Rights Act,
That means they can’t just impose a blanket ban on all protests under the coronavirus restrictions - and the judge in Friday’s case urged both sides to keep talking.
In the absence of further legal clarity, the police maintained their position that the balance came down in favour of preventing a gathering, rather than allowing an exception to mark a very exceptional and tragic death.
The judges fudged and the police overreacted ,bad decisions .
Well there is that